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Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by unishark on Saturday June 20, 2020 @11:59PM (#23589634)
The fraction of positives has also been very low in Japan. Considering they have largely stuck with their restrictions on test access, this means people with fever and such symptoms are still mostly due to other reasons, despite being deep in summer now when such things are uncommon.

I have been puzzling over the Japan situation from the beginning. They go against a lot of narrative about why the US got so bad. People would wave them off with conspiracy theories about the Olympics. We definitely need some much better survey data.

Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by novok on Sunday June 21, 2020 @03:25AM (#23590465)
They are a healthier (%3 obese vs %30 obese), quieter, less touchy (ex: bow vs handshake, no hugs, etc) & cleaner (ex: no shoes in the house) base population with mask wearing that probably don't meet up in large groups nowadays other than school.

While the poorer population of America is probably not that fit compared to the richer, which is why your seeing more of them dying probably.

Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by unishark on Sunday June 21, 2020 @07:14AM (#23591350)
Stereotypes don't really help as we don't know which of them matter if any, and to what degree. Japan also had mask shortages as they got most of their supply from China. They also depend much more on public transit and have smaller housing and public places. I want stats. For all we know it could be the amount of plosives and spitting in different languages that's the key.

By the way I don't know about you but I can't remember the last time I hugged someone outside my immediate family, and I may have shaken four hands in the last 12 months. I have a hard time believing that's very relevant, despite the high profile of such customs.

Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by harpratap on Sunday June 21, 2020 @05:20AM (#23590904)
> base population with mask wearing that probably don't meet up in large groups nowadays

You haven't been to Nomikais I believe.

Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by novok on Sunday June 21, 2020 @01:35PM (#23593610)
When I say large group, I mean hundreds of people in a church levels of large group singing church hymns loudly. Not a few dozen inside a room.

Loud singing/talking has been shown to increase coronavirus / droplet transmissions.

Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by harpratap on Sunday June 21, 2020 @02:46PM (#23594261)
You mean Karaoke? A tradition so popular there are million dollar companies providing it as a service?
Re:Revenge of the Suburbs by novok on Sunday June 21, 2020 @06:16PM (#23595830)
Again, a small group of people of a dozen people max, all separated in small rooms. Not a church with hundreds all crammed together on pews singing hymns with their masks off.