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Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by comex on Saturday June 20, 2020 @10:02PM (#23589109)
I don't see anything in the parent comment that's even remotely controversial. Almost everyone across the political spectrum agrees that we should spend more on education, at least in the abstract. There's plenty of disagreement on the details, but I don't see anything in the comment that stakes out a strong position on any of the major issues. Perhaps I'm missing something.
Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by nyczomg on Saturday June 20, 2020 @11:12PM (#23589442)
You’re not missing something. But that’s the point. You read the whole comment and interpreted it in good faith. What the comment you are replying to is saying, is that it is easy to cherry pick statements out of nuanced comments that do not hold up well on their own. So unfortunately many people are afraid of making nuanced points online, and stick to banal platitudes that can’t be easily misinterpreted in bad faith.
Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by core-questions on Monday June 22, 2020 @11:48AM (#23601524)
Here's the problem: you cannot guarantee equal outcomes across intersectional groups. Period. Not going to happen. A hundred years of psychometric research backs this up; there are simply differences that cannot be papered over by adjusting metrics and applying equalizing coefficients.

A highly effective education system that really gets the best out of every person involved is also going to be selective, it is going to group people into different classes based on ability, and the resulting output is going to be highly offensive to the militant people who right now are literally doing their best to take over American cities.

So no, we can't fix this problem. We can spend more on it, but ultimately all of that money is just IOUs against a decaying system that demands everyone be equal, even if that lowest common denominator means all but the super-rich end up living in a favela within a few decades.

Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by comex on Monday June 22, 2020 @01:45PM (#23603245)
In short, you're claiming that some races or genders are inherently more capable than others, independent of all 'nurture' factors? If so, you're wrong, but feel free to clarify what "hundred years of psychometric research" you're referring to.
Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by candiodari on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @05:15PM (#23620394)
No we are claiming that we need $4309582309239 extra spending on the Governor's wife's tennis partners' baker's niece's program to totally-not-put-all-those-dollars-back-into-the-governors-electoral-budget.

That will fix it.

What I mean to say is that 99.9% of those programs are just abusing the system (even if 10% of them started out with honest intentions).

Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by core-questions on Tuesday June 23, 2020 @04:25PM (#23619753)
How about you show me an IQ study with a big cohort that shows otherwise? You're the one asserting something that doesn't line up with anyone's experience with zero proof.
Re:Executive order expected to suspend H-1B, other visas unt... by hintymad on Sunday June 21, 2020 @04:54PM (#23595321)
I was actually arguing that we should spend differently, not necessarily more, in our education system.