Well tbf, stuxnet & flame are probably the two cyber-attacks that can actually beyond all doubt be called cyber warfare.

Most everything else seems more about finding a scapegoat to blame.

Yes your right, i am not saying cyber-warfare does no exist, i just don't see often good point's for the origin of the attack...often its like HAHA we found the timezone of Peking in a file....as if a professional agency is that stupid (well sometimes they are)

Russia, China, and North Korea have no free media to report such things.

Ok you win, since the NSA and the CIA have a complete transparency rule like all the western security services have...it has to be China (or something like that) ;)

All your replies are arrogant in tone and derogatory to other posters. If you're trying to prove a point you should have to put in as much effort as you are requesting from the others. Provide valid links where the assumptions were wrong and justify your argument. This condescending tone does not suit HN community. I hope someone flags your comments.

You make the allegations so bringing the proof is on your side...

To believe everything a state says well THAT is arrogant..one hint?

-Chemical weapons in Iraq (many times repeated by 'free' media, with a war at the end and no chem found)

And NO i like the HN community exactly because thinking out of the box is normal, just believe what a state like Australia says and the standard 'enemy' is china...that's a dangerous thing. I'm NOT saying it's not true, i just want some proof, otherwise it smells once again foul.

You just proved me right. Thank you.i don't have any more time for you.

Thanks to the almighty weaver for that ;)

> or is maybe something else behind it?

What precisely are you saying?

>What precisely are you saying?

That you CAN say something, but its not true an never was.

Such large scale attacks are organized and effectively weapons.

Now, think which country wants to attack Australia and teach it lesson for various noises it has been making against it.

Now look at the past history of the said country.

There is your evidence.

So that means the next cyber-attack against the US comes from Afghanistan, Iran or Vietnam?

That's NOT evidence...could be true or not.

PS: But i think your 'evidence' is exactly what people of color have a problem with, especially in the US.