Re:Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
by YayamiOmate on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:48PM
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It depends how you define market. Apple has control over 100% of ios apps.
I doubt ms had 90% of consumer electronics market or even os.
Re:Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
by evilduck on Friday June 19, 2020 @03:21PM
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Walmart has 100% monopoly over their store space. Verizon has 100% monopoly over what can connect to their network. Google has a monopoly over the Play Store. Cows have a monopoly over milk production. At which point does this argument stop working?
> I doubt ms had 90% of consumer electronics market or even os.
You should probably look that up then, instead of "doubting": https://www.justice.gov/atr/us-v-microsoft-courts-findings-f...
Re:Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
by sepiatone on Friday June 19, 2020 @04:00PM
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Yes, but Walmart cannot stop another supermarket from opening in the same area, Verizon cannot stop you from bringing another phone to their network. Android allows other stores.
Cows? Oh wait, you've got me there.
Re:Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
by evilduck on Friday June 19, 2020 @04:47PM
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You sure about that? Small town businesses have lamented Walmart moving in for ages, Verizon can _absolutely_ prevent another phone from joining their network, they even charge activation fees on top of it all. And Android _is_ the alternative store if you don't like shopping on iOS, and the monopoly holder to boot. I can't run .ipa files on Android either, why can't we sue Google for not supporting that SDK, since they're a smartphone OS monopoly holder?
Re:Quit whining about Apple and just stop using them
by LordDragonfang on Friday June 19, 2020 @10:27PM
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While I agree with everything you're saying, Google's android literally allows you to install third party app stores and even sideload apps. Google does not behave at all like Apple in that regard.
But as the parent comment you're replying to said, the situations aren't comparable.
Microsoft had over 90% of the market in the 90s. You could not stop using Windows, because there was simply no credible alternative for most consumers. That's not true for iOS.
If Microsoft at the time had, say, 50% of the market the outcome would likely have been extremely different.