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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by staplers on Friday June 19, 2020 @12:48PM (#23576201) 

  I do wonder ... Introduce fear, or just personal interests and does that support go out the window?
Anecdotally, my view of 2A rights completely flipped once I saw police attacking people in their homes and property for no other reason than filming protests.

I used to (naively) think the police and government were generally passive to citizens even when politically differing. It's amazing how quickly the illusion can be shattered.

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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by JoeSmithson on Friday June 19, 2020 @12:59PM (#23576357)
What's the logic here? How does police brutality and 2A relate?

Police are aggressive and corrupt, so you get a gun, so...?

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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by staplers on Monday June 22, 2020 @02:23PM (#23603751)
Why do the police carry weapons when violent criminals are aggressive and corrupt?
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by duxup on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:03PM (#23576434)
I'm a little lost on what you mean.

In my example with fear someone's ideals (freedom of speech) go out the window when they're fearful... I think that's probably a bad thing.

In your case are you saying you changed your mind about something else in the face of fear too? Is that a bad thing?

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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by pjc50 on Friday June 19, 2020 @12:57PM (#23576325)
So you support shooting at the police?
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by staplers on Friday June 19, 2020 @05:26PM (#23579025)
Do you support the police shooting at citizens on their own property?
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by aa66tt55rr44 on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:00PM (#23576377)
theyre much less likely to extrajudically execute somebody with a gun, for starters
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by hackissimo123 on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:35PM (#23576858)
The family of Philando Castille might disagree with you.
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by duxup on Friday June 19, 2020 @01:06PM (#23576465)
How does that work exactly?

If anything there are tons of examples where the presence of a gun played a big part in the shooting ...

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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by amanaplanacanal on Friday June 19, 2020 @03:35PM (#23578096)
Maybe it depends on how many guns you have? See the Malheur wildlife refuge takeover for instance.
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Re:Freedom of Speech: A Right for Everybody, or Only for Lik... by duxup on Friday June 19, 2020 @03:54PM (#23578278)
Not all of them avoided being killed ...

In general suppose an armed mob has some level of protection, for a little while, but I'm not sure it is much of a solution.

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