Re:Neil Armstrong's reply to a Moon landing skeptic
by blaser-waffle on Friday June 19, 2020 @11:48AM
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> Now as for what that was... that's the real mystery as far as I'm concerned. A large number of America's political class of both parties believed invading Iraq was important enough to burn massive amounts of money, trust, and reputation. Why?
* 9/11 and the shock/bloodlust that stemmed from it * Powerful lobby groups, like the military-industrial complex and oil companies * the Saudis (local rivals, not fans of Saddam, and old friends of the Bush family) * the Israelis (also local rivals, not fans of Saddam, and capable exerting heavy influence on the W Bush administration) * Probably the Iranians (who bankrolled Ahmed Chalabi and his INC group, also not fans of Saddam)
None of this should be new or surprising -- the interests of most/all of these groups were known at the time.
Re:Neil Armstrong's reply to a Moon landing skeptic
by jussij on Friday June 19, 2020 @03:13AM
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> Nobody believes the WMD lie any more.
Not many believed it at the time:
https://www.theregister.com/2003/07/03/google_bombed_by_miss...
NOTE: Check the date off that page.
Nobody believes the WMD lie any more. Even the Republicans are now admitting that. Many knew it was a lie back then.
I remember as it was happening getting the impression that nobody believed it, that it was universally understood to be a straw man placeholder for the real reason for the Iraq invasion.
Now as for what that was... that's the real mystery as far as I'm concerned. A large number of America's political class of both parties believed invading Iraq was important enough to burn massive amounts of money, trust, and reputation. Why?
The only even marginally plausible speculation I have is that some sizable contingent really believed the catastrophic collapse peak oil scenario that was popular back in the 2000s and that the invasion was rammed through damn-the-torpedoes to get exclusive access to that oil so America could weather the impending apocalypse.