Re:Advice to Young Web Developers
by imtringued on Friday June 19, 2020 @03:06AM
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I don't think rerendering an entire webpage on the server side every time a new chat message arrives is a good idea.
There might be people that misuse SPAs when server side rendering is the better choice but SPAs clearly have use cases that are not possible with just HTML.
> I don't think rerendering an entire webpage on the server side every time a new chat message arrives is a good idea.
Sure, but that's pretty much cherry picked whataboutism when the parent comment we're talking about said: "Most people are happy if the page loads in reasonable amount of time".
So apart from people writing chat messaging widgets for websites, do you have data to contradict the conclusions about webpage load times and rates of change of user behaviour that can be obviously drawn from the Google/Amazon/Walmart/Mozilla/Yahoo data?
Re:Advice to Young Web Developers
by bryanrasmussen on Friday June 19, 2020 @04:07AM
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a 1% increase in sales and most people not caring are not definitely incompatible viewpoints.
That said I am definitely one of the people for whom it does matter.
Amazon, Google, Walmart, Mozilla, and Yahoo all have numbers that say otherwise.
"Amazon and others found that removing 100 milliseconds of latency improves sales by 1%."
I'm 100% sure there are people who care about 1% differences in sales, and the fact that has been rediscovered independently by different organisations shows that "people" at least "aren't happy" with very small increases in page load times, at least when making purchase decisions. (Whether that extends to people reading your latest blog post or endless scrolling your social media site's newfeed is a reasonable question, which I'm not sure 've got a good enough handle on to have an opinion worth sharing.)
(From an earlier HN submission today: https://instant.page/ - click the [1] link n that page after that "Amazon and others found that removing 100 milliseconds of latency improves sales by 1%." sentence for sources.)