Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by solarkraft on Friday June 19, 2020 @02:23AM
(#23571582)
> I don't see the anti-competitive part there.
Maybe not exactly anti-competitive (but maybe): It requires you to have hundreds of megabytes of Google blobs with root permissions on your device, which some people don't like.
If course this pales in contrast to Apples actions.
Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by namibj on Friday June 19, 2020 @02:38AM
(#23571663)
https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/wiki... claims to support this without blobs. I haven't tested it myself, but some friends seem to have no problems with their de-googled Androids.
Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by dannyw on Friday June 19, 2020 @02:11AM
(#23571514)
Can you use FCM for non-Play-Store apps? I was under the impression you couldn't from the grand-grand-parent.
Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by neurostimulant on Friday June 19, 2020 @05:35AM
(#23572752)
I think you can but you still have to link to Google play services, which is not possible for open source apps in f-droid since they need to be able to run on de-googled android which lacks Google services.
Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by namibj on Friday June 19, 2020 @07:20AM
(#23573247)
It looks like FCM is supported by the open replacement I linked in a close-by comment, here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23571663
Re:Apple gave me the Hey treatment back in 2014
by neurostimulant on Friday June 19, 2020 @07:38AM
(#23573346)
Aren't microg supposed to get installed first on the device? Which mean if the user doesn't have it, then your app won't run? Or can you embed the FCM support into the app itself so it doesn't depend on google play service or microg availability?
I don't see the anti-competitive part there. There are good reasons around consolidating resident daemons and only using a single TCP connection with a special keep-alive configuration.
And from experience, it's perfectly possible to not use FCM, at the cost of a persistent notification that alerts the user about this, so they can get rid of abusive apps.