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Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by pccole on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:12PM (#23565872)
Which Apple does not permit. It's literally Apple's way, plus a 30% cut for doing nothing, or you're not even allowed to play. And that's exactly what antitrust laws were intended to prevent.

I wouldn't say Apple or Google do nothing. Their Argument is we provide the infrastructure and developer tools so we're going to take a slice off all your sells to keep this stuff up and running. Even the Amazon App Store takes a 30% cut.

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by thebean11 on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:18PM (#23565948)
If you aren't using their payment systems you aren't using that specific infrastructure or dev tools though. This isn't about someone wanting Apple's (super nice) payment system for free, it's about Apple forcing them to use it instead of their own solution.
Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by Despegar on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:20PM (#23565971)
If the antitrust laws were designed to prevent that (they weren't) then there's been a massive failure in enforcement because nothing has changed since Apple launched the App Store in 2008. In reality laws don't require platforms to be "open" or "closed" or dictate how you're supposed to make money. And that kind of regulation would be bad for dynamic markets and competition.
Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by yyyk on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:29PM (#23566078)
If you look at Spotify's allegations[0], than things did change in 2015 when Apple launched Apple Music, creating a conflict of interest for Apple. Anyhow, anti-trust moves slow. The trust cases against IBM took more than a decade, and the case against Microsoft also took a few years.

[0] https://timetoplayfair.com/timeline/

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by Despegar on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:54PM (#23566346)
"Conflict of interest" isn't illegal. Apple has been competing with app developers on their platform from the first days of the App Store. If Spotify is somehow trying to suggest that Apple should be barred from doing so, that's not going to be possible under antitrust laws.
Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by yyyk on Thursday June 18, 2020 @03:16PM (#23566631)
Conflict of interest itself is not illegal, but it does legally restrict Apple from doing some things.

For example, providing private APIs to Apple Music would straight fall under the Microsoft precedent, same for not allowing other apps as default programs. Apple Music would have to use the same store review policies, and Apple may have to separate divisions so AM pays the same store tax (but internally).

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by naravara on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:35PM (#23566146)
> then there's been a massive failure in enforcement

I think basically everyone who works on anti-trust issues would agree that this has indeed been the case. Not just with Apple, but with anti-trust law in general.