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Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by Spivak on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:15PM (#23565242)
But you're choosing a definition of the world that's too narrow -- "if you've already decided to go to Walmart then Walmart is the only store that can sell at Walmart."

Why isn't "the world" the smartphone market where there are plenty of options?

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by shaftway on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:48PM (#23565616)
I think the underlying sentiment is that you've bought the device, so you should be able to do whatever you want with it. And there's no technical reason that your choice of device should preclude other stores.

For a more meatspace example let's say you own a car with full self-driving capabilities. Now, the manufacturer of that car also runs a chain of grocery stores. It would be problematic if the car refused to drive too a different store. "If you've already to decided to buy a Walmart car then Walmart is the only store that you can go to."

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by SJetKaran on Thursday June 18, 2020 @04:21PM (#23567543)
well put
Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by thebean11 on Thursday June 18, 2020 @02:28PM (#23566067)
There are essentially two options for smartphones, for tablets it's closer to one. Remember when Microsoft got in trouble for bundling Internet Explorer in Windows? Seems quaint compared to what Apple is doing now.
Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by untog on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:27PM (#23565374)
> Why isn't "the world" the smartphone market where there are plenty of options?

At a certain point in debates like this everyone ends up over-examining analogies to a point where it isn't useful. To be a useful parallel you'd need a world where you can only buy two types of car and each one only lets you go to one type of shopping mall, or something like that. My point is, that isn't how either the real world works or how smartphone app stores work, so it's a debate over nothing.

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by mortenjorck on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:36PM (#23565474)
> plenty of options

There are two options, and one of them is provided free of charge by the world's largest advertising company.

The state of the smartphone OS market is so wildly different from the general-merchandise retail market as to render any comparisons meaningless.

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by szhu on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:42PM (#23565548)
Not only are there only two options, there is a high entry fee to each option, and you can only choose one at a time even if you wanted to pay this entry fee twice. What percent of consumers are willing to carry two phones in their pockets?

So you can compare this to if you could only buy things at two different stores, each store has a hefty membership fee, and you were effectively locked into your decision for at least a year at a time.

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by MattRix on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:27PM (#23565379)
Because an iPhone is not the App Store. This seems fairly obvious?

"the definition of world is too narrow" is a pretty weak argument.

Re:Apple Music on Android requires its own payment details t... by veilrap on Thursday June 18, 2020 @11:20PM (#23570617)
I buy an iPhone, knowing what App Store I'm getting. I don't see the issue, I chose to buy into this ecosystem.