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Re:On the Folly of Rewarding A, While Hoping for B (1975) [pdf] by stepstop on Thursday June 18, 2020 @11:14AM (#23563826)
> Once tenured, you've already been selected for the traits that are desired in the role and proven your ability to execute them well.

I agree that the OP has a bit of self-selection bias. Similar to the “why don’t you go to college and get a real job. I did that, so can you” that internalizes the success while ignoring externalities

Re:On the Folly of Rewarding A, While Hoping for B (1975) [pdf] by geofft on Thursday June 18, 2020 @01:58PM (#23565726)
I don't think OP is saying "I got tenure, why can't you go through the same process" or anything, I think they're saying "I got tenure, and having been tenured I continue to do good work because of intrinsic motivation and not management-driven incentives, I think we should extend this level of autonomy to everyone and get rid of the barriers to having a tenure-style job."
Re:On the Folly of Rewarding A, While Hoping for B (1975) [pdf] by impendia on Thursday June 18, 2020 @03:11PM (#23566576)
I am a bit confused; what is your criticism?

My only real point is that my job performance is mostly independent from what my superiors incentivize or hope to see.

Imagining myself as a soldier in WWII, I would like to think that I would have been motivated less by whatever my commanders incentivized, and more by the prospect of beating Hitler. Whereas, in Vietnam, I can't see any motivating large-scale goal or purpose. I think that Art Hoppe summed up the prevailing sentiment in his 1971 newspaper column: "I don't give a damn anymore who wins the day."

That said, hindsight is 20-20, and my argument is totally hypothetical: I have never been in any situation even remotely similar to war.