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Re:State of Linux Desktop Security by tsimionescu on Thursday June 18, 2020 @03:57AM (#23560826)
While I think you are right to some extent, articles like the parent's are mostly aimed at people claiming 'Linux Desktop is actually better for grandma'. The reality is that grandma is going to be better protected while running Windows or MacOS or Chrome OS. If she's running Linux, she is wide open.

Also, some of the most common practices on Linux that are claimed to be superior from a security standpoint are just bad. For example, the package manager is very nice, but when you want to install anything that is not in the official repos, your options get just as bad as windows, or worse, despite what many people think. A common recommendation in advanced projects is to add their apt/yum repo to your system, which is not only equivalent to downloading stuff off the internet, it is also you registering them as trusted to deliver updates to your system forever. On Windows, you at least have some anti-virus tool scanning for known malware, so you still have a small chance that you won't be allowed to run some well known malware from years ago.

Re:State of Linux Desktop Security by blaser-waffle on Thursday June 18, 2020 @11:22AM (#23563921)
> The reality is that grandma is going to be better protected while running Windows or MacOS or Chrome OS. If she's running Linux, she is wide open.

Strongly disagree. The linux desktop has something like 1% of the marketshare and is far from the lowest hanging fruit. And basic, sane security defaults are plenty good for simple web browsing and emailing.

My grandma used to get calls 2-3 times a month from "Microsoft" and "Comcast" trying to get her to download team viewer and cough up some passwords to Windows 8. She eventually got phished by downloading something dumb via email. I put her on the Ubuntus, with some tweaks, and she's doing fine. 10/10 would do it again.

> For example, the package manager is very nice, but when you want to install anything that is not in the official repos, your options get just as bad as windows, or worse

Grandma ain't installing Steam or an obscure 3rd party metasploit framework -- standard Ubanto repos are fine. She doesn't need rpmfusion to access Office365 emails.

> On Windows, you at least have some anti-virus tool scanning for known malware

Clam-AV is a thing in Linux and works fine -- we used it on mail relays a while back and had decent results. If you're putting trust in the default MS virus protection you're naive.

Re:State of Linux Desktop Security by lifty on Thursday June 18, 2020 @04:24AM (#23560986)
The external provided software repos are one thing I find superior on Linux, compared to macOS and Windows. It gives you an OS managed way to do updates to 3rd party providers, as opposed to each app shipping their own update code, many times running as a background daemon. On macOS, the situation for apps outside of the app store is a ghetto. Not sure about Windows as I don’t use it often, but I suspect it’s similar to macOS.
Re:State of Linux Desktop Security by tsimionescu on Thursday June 18, 2020 @07:48AM (#23562146)
Sure, it has advantages, but it is less secure than downloading a binary, since you can check if the binary is downloading stuff off the internet or not, while the repo could be benign today, but malign tomorrow when the company hosting it gets bought, for example.

Also, from what I've seen, custom updaters are still the most common way of delivering updates for Linux outside the distribution-maintained official repo, as most people ship software for many distributions, and maintaining one repo per distribution quickly gets annoying. Ironically, this wouldn't be a problem on Windows or MacOS, if they decided to include a package manager with support for custom repos (the app stores allow side-loading, but do not allow custom upstream, as far as I know).