For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part of doing business

Re:For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part o... by junke on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @03:56AM (#23548948)

I am not a native English speaker and I appreciate being corrected about grammar and usage. I thought it was the same meaning as "doesn't need to", and looking around forums etc. I cannot find confirmation of what you describe. Do you have an example where the expression has the opposite meaning? Thanks.

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Re:For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part o... by vinay427 on Wednesday June 17, 2020 @04:38AM (#23549201)

You're actually correct in how you used it, as a native English speaker, although I think "need not be" is the preferred/correct form. I think this expression is a little less common in the US compared to the UK.

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Re:For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part o... by neonate on Thursday June 18, 2020 @04:49PM (#23567850)

"Needs not to be" and "need not be" have sharply different meanings. "Racism need not be voluntary to be racism" would have been a perfectly clear and eloquent way to make the GP's point. But that extra "s" in "needs" changes the meaning entirely, at least in American English. Are you sure that this is not also the case in the UK? I'd be very surprised.

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Re:For black CEOs in Silicon Valley, humiliation is a part o... by vinay427 on Thursday June 18, 2020 @05:59PM (#23568592)

I agree that those are different, but I subconsciously read it as "need not be" and later assumed it was a mistype of that, not "needs not to be," as it's closer to the former than the latter.

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