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Re:AMD to Launch New Ryzen 3000 XT CPUs: Zen 2 with More MHz by anon73044 on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @02:30PM (#23542467)
Why would Epyc get the best binned silicon? Would the best binned Epyc run substantially cooler at the same clock than the next worsed binned Threadripper? Just curious.
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Re:AMD to Launch New Ryzen 3000 XT CPUs: Zen 2 with More MHz by old-gregg on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @02:38PM (#23542559)
I think you answered your own question. The reason for server chips to use better silicon is to generate less heat (and consume less power) at the same frequency. Server operators (unlike desktop users) are more concerned with non-idle power consumption. Besides, server CPUs are semi-passively cooled, there's not enough room in a server chassis to accommodate elaborate cooling setups common in workstations and especially in enthusiast machines.
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Re:AMD to Launch New Ryzen 3000 XT CPUs: Zen 2 with More MHz by fgonzag on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @10:52PM (#23547197)
Have you checked the CFM of server fans? Servers have much better cooling that a desktop, that's the reason they sound like jets during normal operation.
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Re:AMD to Launch New Ryzen 3000 XT CPUs: Zen 2 with More MHz by anon73044 on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @03:23PM (#23543012)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ That's my guess but I'd love to see some data to confirm.
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Re:AMD to Launch New Ryzen 3000 XT CPUs: Zen 2 with More MHz by bisby on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @05:21PM (#23544330)
Not solid numbers,

but a 24 core threadripper has a TDP of 280w. The 24 core epycs of the same generation have 155w or 180w (depending on clocks).

The clock speeds are a bit lower on the epyc models, but but I would be willing to bet that chips that cant hit the lower wattage targets just get pushed as high as they can go, and it is then on the consumer to manage the extra heat.

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