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Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by Angostura on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:39AM (#23516312)
It's weird that people like a particular browswer for a number of its feature, but are upset about a change that makes it worse?
Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by tjoff on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:49AM (#23516369)
Yes, it is kind of weird to like a browser where the company behind it are actively working against the web when there are decent alternatives (arguably better alternatives) that does not contribute to a monopoly that we can not break.

Do you think IE6 was bad? Remember how long it took to get rid of it? Imagine a world where the monopoly leader doesn't just walk away from the browser (which is what MS did with IE6) but actively abuses the situation. It will be orders of magnitude worse. Say hi to amp. Say hi to chrome. Say hi to google. Say goodbye to the web.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by toyg on Sunday June 14, 2020 @06:44AM (#23516641)
> Remember how long it took to get rid of it?

I suspect a lot of people in this conversation are not old enough to remember, even if they wanted to.

Maybe universities should have an obligation to promote nonprofit tools (i.e. Firefox) rather than shady commercial software that only happens to be gratis.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by randomsearch on Sunday June 14, 2020 @05:46AM (#23516353)
Chrome is the new IE. Some sites don’t work (well) with others browsers, so people are annoyed when the browser they are forced to use does stupid things.
Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by wizzwizz4 on Sunday June 14, 2020 @07:26AM (#23516867)
Before Edge came out, I always preferred IE11 over Chrome (on machines that only had those two installed), because IE11 kept the legacy "must compete with Netscape" features like decent contentEditable context menus. And websites that didn't work in IE11 generally weren't worth using anyway.

Now… well, IE11 doesn't even support ES6 properly, and good sites have started relying on that, and Edge is just evil Chrome – unless it's got Firefox installed, Chrome's your only option. But sites that use Chrome-only APIs aren't worth using anyway.

(Oh, wait, Zoom needs either Chrome or a malwarey desktop program.)

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by grey_earthling on Sunday June 14, 2020 @09:25AM (#23517485)
Zoom works in Firefox.

And there are alternatives to Zoom, e.g. Jitsi.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by ekimekim on Sunday June 14, 2020 @10:25AM (#23517826)
> Zoom needs either Chrome or a malwarey desktop program

...and the malwarey desktop program is also Chrome.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by wizzwizz4 on Tuesday June 16, 2020 @07:27PM (#23545604)
The backdoor part isn't Chrome, though, is it? (If it's a Node.js script bundled with yet another copy of V8, I'll scream.)
Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by cageface on Sunday June 14, 2020 @08:15AM (#23517127)
This analogy would work if Google was deliberately holding back new features on the web to favor its proprietary operating system but in fact the situation is pretty much the opposite.

I also don't understand why everyone is up with pitchforks at Google on this when Apple did the same thing to URLs a while ago. I guess engineers are just as susceptible to groupthink as anyone else.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by gruez on Sunday June 14, 2020 @08:58AM (#23517354)
>This analogy would work if Google was deliberately holding back new features on the web to favor its proprietary operating system but in fact the situation is pretty much the opposite.

They do kind of do that. Rather than going through the consensus process for getting a web standard added, they implement it in chrome then unilaterally write a standard for themselves. See for example, the SGX (signed exchange) "standard" they pushed out.

Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by amanaplanacanal on Sunday June 14, 2020 @10:30AM (#23517869)
Most people don't use apple.
Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by cageface on Monday June 15, 2020 @03:12AM (#23524654)
Apple is massively popular in the US. The last few projects I've worked on our users were 50% iOS Safari.
Re:Google adds experimental setting to hide full URLs in Chr... by throwaway_pdp09 on Sunday June 14, 2020 @06:15AM (#23516488)
It's weird that they complain yet don't actually switch.