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Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by omginternets on Friday June 12, 2020 @10:19AM (#23499459)
I don't understand how this is remotely relevant.

The point is: many (most?) first-world countries have unions that work well overall. Same with police departments.

What you're describing are putative reasons why the American execution is a failure.

Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by compiler-guy on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:28PM (#23500832)
So those proposing having unions in the US need to explain why this implementation will suddenly work differently than all the others in the US.

Sure, I'll freely admit that unions have worked very well other places, but the US seems to blow it every darn time. Why would this time be different?

Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by Apocryphon on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:10PM (#23501970)
Software engineering has this culture of innovation, invention, disruption, and reimplementing everything from taxis to space travel to payment systems to currency to food from scratch. Why couldn't they attempt to do the same to labor relations.

Why assume that the day after a tech union is invented, suddenly you're stuck with a massive clanking bureaucracy that's identical to the ones that were formed in very different industries many decades ago?

Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by compiler-guy on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:44PM (#23502334)
I think the burden of proof is on those saying, "This time it will be different."
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by Apocryphon on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:50PM (#23502393)
Well, why don't we apply the scientific method and try it out! This industry was built upon experimentation and radical thinking.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by compiler-guy on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:59PM (#23502472)
Unionization is much more of a social experiment than a technical experiment.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by Apocryphon on Friday June 12, 2020 @03:02PM (#23502494)
And what is ridesharing, house-sharing, cryptocurrency, or social networking? Or open source software for that matter? As software eats the world, technical innovations are creating social situations that have never existed in the past, creating social experiments whether intentional or not.
Re:New Facebook tool allows employers to suppress “unionize”... by jcims on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:20PM (#23502099)
I guess we'll find out: https://kickstarterunited.org/