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Re:Why are there so many humans? by redis_mlc on Thursday June 11, 2020 @08:17PM (#23494637)
> “Then two technologies were introduced that changed these Maya’s lives and, ultimately, their population: a gas-powered water pump and two gas-powered maize grinders. [..] By 2003, women who started reproducing in the 1970s had eight to 12 children.”

Gotta wonder if the women thought that was progress, or not.

Re:Why are there so many humans? by DoreenMichele on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:07AM (#23496499)
This article seems to leave out critical "common knowledge": There are so many humans because birth rates tend to decline after child mortality rates go down. The article also seems to not address the detail of whether or not this group had access to birth control of some sort so as to engineer a decline in birth rates.
Re:Why are there so many humans? by requin246 on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:13AM (#23496251)
This is a (very recent) anachronism.

Most people in antiquity saw children as a blessing. The more children you had, the larger your bloodline would be. In fact, being unable to have children was a point of shame for a woman. It wasn’t until the rise of the modern era in the west that people started wanting small families or no children at all.

You can still see this idea of children as a blessing present in some communities that haven’t been westernized, e.g. some Mohawk communities in Canada.

Re:Why are there so many humans? by redis_mlc on Friday June 12, 2020 @02:42AM (#23496677)
If you read the article, that group is subsistence gatherers, basically trying to find enough calories daily to survive.

A very different situation than pondering one's bloodline.

Re:Why are there so many humans? by abfan1127 on Friday June 12, 2020 @12:08PM (#23500607)
it was a blessing because you had more help. Children could work the farm, help hunt, household chores, etc. When you're a subsistence farmer, getting more help is critical to feeding the family. Now, children can't be brought to the worksite or office, so the blessing is less helpful.
Re:Why are there so many humans? by thefz on Friday June 12, 2020 @07:57AM (#23498323)
> Most people in antiquity saw children as a blessing.

2003 is antiquity?

Re:Why are there so many humans? by pengaru on Thursday June 11, 2020 @09:45PM (#23495157)
> Gotta wonder if the women thought that was progress, or not.

It's not like women don't tend to love children...

Re:Why are there so many humans? by remram on Thursday June 11, 2020 @10:10PM (#23495286)
The fact that they tend to love their own children (which is not a specifically female or motherly trait?) has little to do with whether the life they want for themselves is one of caring for 12 of them.
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Re:Why are there so many humans? by aklemm on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:03AM (#23496208)
Hopefully you find what you want in life, but I’m not betting you will.
Re:Why are there so many humans? by pengaru on Friday June 12, 2020 @01:54AM (#23496438)
Those who want nothing have everything.
Re:Why are there so many humans? by thefz on Friday June 12, 2020 @07:56AM (#23498316)
That's horribly reductive and I imagine that if some of these women had the choice or even knew better, would have dedicated their own lives to something other than child rearing.