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Re:Early electric fans by lqet on Thursday June 11, 2020 @05:44AM (#23486942)
> A sheet brass disk in front of the fan was acted upon by the air from the fan causing the fan to oscillate back and forth

Is this an accurate description? Here is such a fan in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7DFuGaujg

It seems to work because the brass disk is blocking the air stream on one side, so the other side of the fan acts as a jet engine to rotate it, which is actually really clever.

Re:Early electric fans by jetrink on Thursday June 11, 2020 @08:17AM (#23488005)
Wow, that is more violent than I expected!

I think both effects are at work. Thought experiment/hypothesis: If you detached the plate and merely held it in front of the fan blades, I think the fan would still rotate due to the decreased airflow on one side of the fan, but it would rotate less quickly since the force that moving air is applying to the plate would no longer be acting on the fan.

Re:Early electric fans by lqet on Thursday June 11, 2020 @12:45PM (#23490679)
Yup, I posted the original comment to quickly, the airflow indeed also pushes the brass disk forward, thus rotating the fan! An extremely clever solution that seems to be very easy and cheap to manufacture.
Re:Early electric fans by perilunar on Thursday June 11, 2020 @09:29PM (#23495066)
> the airflow indeed also pushes the brass disk forward

The force on the disk is caused by an opposite force on the fan blades, cancelling them out (since they are connected by the frame and the bearings), so it cannot cause the fan to rotate.

The rotation is due simply to unbalanced thrust from the fan. The unimpeded side produces more thrust than the impeded side, so the fan turns to that side.

Re:Early electric fans by rrmm on Thursday June 11, 2020 @05:47AM (#23486955)
The quoted bit seems to take a very neutral stance on exactly how the brass disk is "acted upon". So it's probably correct no matter how things work just due to vagueness.
Re:Early electric fans by jotm on Thursday June 11, 2020 @09:23AM (#23488570)
That's some real ingenuity right there!