News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by staycoolboy on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:14PM (#23481548)
Is anyone here boycotting use of Zoom? I have a few clients that ask me to use it and I'm trying to think up a good response as to why I don't have it installed. For those of you that have rejected it on principle, what are you all saying?
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by frabbit on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:34PM (#23481755)
I will not use it. Have used it once with some friends when it seemed churlish not to, but have refused to and suggested using Jitsi Meet since then with others including at work.

Work insists on Microsoft Teams now. Oh well. At least I am only probably being spied on by the "good guys" now, right?

Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by ciarannolan on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:23PM (#23481629)
I refuse to use Zoom at all.

If it's a client I have a comfortable relationship with, I'll tell them honestly why I won't use it.

If not, I tell them "I can never get Zoom to work on my computer" or something similar, and provide an alternative.

Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by mfkp on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @07:29PM (#23483401)
Just say "our company policy does not allow using Zoom due to security concerns", then suggest an alternative that you prefer.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by miles on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:22PM (#23481620)
I generally share a smattering of links like these:

Zoom banned from New York City schools due to privacy and security flaws https://www.fastcompany.com/90486586/zoom-banned-from-new-yo...

Google Told Its Workers That They Can’t Use Zoom On Their Laptops Anymore https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pranavdixit/google-bans...

Elon Musk's SpaceX bans Zoom over privacy concerns https://www.reuters.com/article/us-spacex-zoom-video-commn/e...

Beware of ‘ZoomBombing:’ screensharing filth to video calls https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/17/zoombombing/

Zoom needs to clean up its privacy act https://blogs.harvard.edu/doc/2020/03/27/zoom/

Zoom security issues: Here's everything that's gone wrong (so far https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes

Mass move to work from home in coronavirus crisis creates opening for hackers: cyber experts https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cyber/...

Security and Privacy Implications of Zoom https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/04/security_and_...

‘Zoom is malware’: why experts worry about the video conferencing platform https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-tech...

Ex-NSA hacker drops new zero-day doom for Zoom https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-nsa-hacker-drops-zero-1400...

Maybe we shouldn’t use Zoom after all https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/31/zoom-at-your-own-risk/

Attackers can use Zoom to steal users’ Windows credentials with no warning https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpat...

The Zoom Privacy Backlash Is Only Getting Started https://www.wired.com/story/zoom-backlash-zero-days/

Hackers Are Selling a Critical Zoom Zero-Day Exploit for $500,000 https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdqgv/hackers-selling-cr...

Researchers found and bought more than 500,000 Zoom passwords on the dark web for less than a cent each https://www.businessinsider.com/500000-zoom-accounts-sale-da...

Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by orsenthil on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @05:16PM (#23482220)
I relied on Mozilla's guide and they seem to be perfectly OK with recommending Zoom as a video conferencing app

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/categor...

Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by staycoolboy on Thursday June 11, 2020 @01:47PM (#23491396)
This is very interesting. I do trust mozilla. However many of the security concerns stem from the dubious thing the Zoom installer does, which Mozilla's scorecard does not cover. I feel a little more at east with a Mozilla recommendation, however.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by shacrw on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:45PM (#23481882)
The above China concern is legit but a lot of the issues in the above links have been fixed in the updates ~2 months back.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by miles on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:53PM (#23481983)
Yes, it merely establishes their long-running problems and history of disregarding user privacy and security.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by fsflover on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @05:01PM (#23482078)
Would be useful to collect the links solely about the Zoom's security politics, not about bugs which everyone has.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by frequentnapper on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @06:03PM (#23482685)
I don't use it because development team is based in China.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by epanchin on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @06:37PM (#23482998)
You don’t need to install it to join a zoom meeting, that’s one of the reasons it’s so popular.
Re:Zoom closes account of U.S.-based Chinese activist after ... by OJFord on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @08:49PM (#23484015)
Nor Jitsi, whether you self-host (which you can do) or use the first or a third party site.