25 Years of PHP

Re:25 Years of PHP by nkozyra on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @12:44PM (#23479157)

Well let's be clear ... "bad" is a little more subjective than "faults," which can at least be qualified.

By some measure, every language has warts. PHP in 2008 had a ton of them. PHP in 2020 has fewer of them. Which is a lot like JS.

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Re:25 Years of PHP by ragnese on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @02:28PM (#23480426)

But if PHP in 2020 still has a TON of warts and other languages (even ones with large ecosystems) have WAY FEWER warts, does it matter if PHP has improved since 2008?

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Re:25 Years of PHP by nkozyra on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @06:22PM (#23482874)

Again, I stopped messing with PHP at 5.7 and have watched 7+ grow. My daily language is Go, which I like a lot. Had or have runs with python, asp!, Perl, c#, node, delphi and used rust and Java for personal projects.

I can find warts in all of them. At one point I'd have put PHP right above JavaScript and ASP down at the bottom. Now? I don't see it. Legacy issues are still there, like inconsistent standard library function names, but otherwise I don't see it - as a whole - as any more 'warty' than most of those.

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