25 Years of PHP

Re:25 Years of PHP by ragnese on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @10:52AM (#23477626)

And I think you've hit the nail on the head here. People who defend PHP as "not that bad" are probably people who have used it for so long that they just work around its insanity by muscle memory.

It is NOT okay that `foreach` leaves an allocated reference to the loop-local value.

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Re:25 Years of PHP by DonHopkins on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @02:20PM (#23480338)

And probably people who haven't used anything else, so they have no frame of reference to compare it to, which they would need to realize how terribly and unnecessarily bad it actually is.

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Re:25 Years of PHP by ragnese on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @02:25PM (#23480403)

I didn't want to say it for fear of coming across as condescending... but, yes.

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