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Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @05:27PM (#23471097)
Well, some 'growth' happens just by raising your rates. Not a lot of folks willing to do IoT and firmware. I just charge more every year.

And yes its a mess. Folks resist using real security on their phone or desktop. Imaging an embedded device they buy and want to forget about. They sure don't want any passwords or keys that they'll promptly forget! How many times have I reset my router to factory defaults because, who knows what the admin password is I set two years ago and never used since?

I've put security into devices, and had the client want it taken out. Because their installers find it onerous. And, 'nobody is going to attack my pool pump controller!'

Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by indigochill on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @05:41PM (#23471226)
There is probably a good reason for this that I don't know, but why haven't physical keys replaced passwords yet? Want to manage your IoT device? Just slot in a USB key, do your thing, and unslot it.

You don't really have to sweat the security of the key laying around because its mere existence requires an attacker perform physical penetration which is a different attack profile from someone just cruising Shodan.

Granted, a USB key doesn't make sense for every device, but e.g. it seems like it would make a lot of sense for my router.

Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by 0xCMP on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @06:18PM (#23471580)
I wish thats how a lot of things work, but I imagine it would end up encouraging some to create "proprietary" ones (only ours that has special certificate) to work.

Then charge like crazy the same way dealers do with car keys.

Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by masnaox on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @12:40AM (#23473981)
except dealer keys are software. so I guess car firmware is already the worst of both? which further reinforces the point of the top comment in this thread we are in.
Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by x86_64Ubuntu on Tuesday June 09, 2020 @06:52PM (#23471846)
I remember when IoT was getting big. They talked about how one day, hackers might be able to take over your Nest or other smart thermostat and set the temp to 90-something degrees until you paid them. I laughed at that. I also remember when a bunch of refrigerators died or something because the screen used a software that was deprecated. I would be pretty upset to pay all that money for a fridge just to have it die on me in such a manner.
Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by blaser-waffle on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @11:28AM (#23478148)
OTOH I could run Skyrim on my fridge. Kill some time waiting for my fridge to make ice, etc.
Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by ChuckNorris89 on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @04:28AM (#23475068)
Where do you live that you can charge rates for your firmware work? In my area, firmware development is only full time employment.
Re:Honda's global operations hit by cyber-attack by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @08:22AM (#23476281)
After 20 years in the industry, I have several regular clients. Been contracting for decades.