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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by mirekrusin on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:10AM (#23453749)
When wearing mask in public you're not protecting yourself - that's ineffective - you're protecting others from your own cough/talking droplets - that's effective.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by Tomte on Monday June 08, 2020 @01:39AM (#23453904)
Exactly. Why do you think you disagree with me there?

The point is that when almost all contagious people stay at home, we don't need community masks. We only need them because contagious people are asymptomatic (that's new!), tehrefore don't know about their status and therefore go out in public.

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by blub on Monday June 08, 2020 @03:08AM (#23454282)
Almost all contagious people never stay at home. Based on my experience, people with colds come to work and go about their business.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by hef19898 on Monday June 08, 2020 @05:51AM (#23455152)
That is anecdata. Maybe valid for, say, January. Starting Febuary, that changed. Again anecdata, but In Germany you got up to 2 weeks of sick eave for potential COVID-19 symptoms without seeing a doctor.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by blub on Monday June 08, 2020 @08:08AM (#23455808)
I must be unlucky because my colleagues almost always come to work sneezing for a few days until (if!) they take sick days. This was right before the pandemic, when the situation was getting hot in China but not yet in Europe.
Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by hef19898 on Monday June 08, 2020 @11:22AM (#23457275)
Exactly my point, before we were aware it is going to be the same in Europe. After, not so much.