America is giving up on the pandemic?

Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by HuShifang on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:27PM (#23451003)

Public health is concerned with the health of the public -- which includes health issues induced by stress, poor nutrition, pollution, etc. (Ever notice how African Americans' life expectancy is much lower than that of white Americans? Public health experts have. They study it.) So, in this case, they're calculating that making strides against inequality will be worth the cost of more COVID-19 cases.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by achenatx on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:38PM (#23451089)

there are no calculations being done. They believe in the cause therefore it is justified. They dont believe in the cause of the other side (freedom of movement/commerce) and therefore dont believe they are justified.

They are pretending to base it on science, when it is just another political opinion.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by TeaDrunk on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:05PM (#23452240)

"there are no calculations being done"

Calculations on what, exactly? There are calculations done on how police brutality and systemtic racism contribute to decreased quality of life for black americans. It's considered widely acknowledged within the healthcare industry that black americans have statistically significant health disparities compared to other races, and that additionally it is statistically known that the covid19 shut down primarily affect the service industry, which hits people of color disproportionately towards white people (as people of color are less likely to have jobs that can be worked from home).

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by rhino369 on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:37PM (#23452408)

Conceivably, you could do some sort of analysis on how much systemic racism has an impact on black lives as a measure of year of life lost, etc.

But you'd also have to do the same for the 3 months they've taken from everyone else due to lockdowns.

Until they do that sort of thing, its politics not a social science.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by TeaDrunk on Sunday June 07, 2020 @09:11PM (#23452611)

I mean, the idea is also that the 3 month lockdowns themselves have hard numbers behind them. From what I understand economists have themselves already modeled out the effect of covid-19 without a lockdown and found a lockdown is still more economically beneficial.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by sojournerc on Monday June 08, 2020 @10:18AM (#23456670)

Do you have a source for those models? I'd be interested in seeing that.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by hashmymustache on Sunday June 07, 2020 @08:09PM (#23452266)

People denying this transparent shift to accomodate political advocacy are lying or intentionally blind to it.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by LudwigNagasena on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:51PM (#23451197)

What is the model they use to make this calculations?

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by zarathustreal on Sunday June 07, 2020 @05:51PM (#23451191)

That is absolutely not the case. Furthermore there is nothing wrong with inequality, the only way we could all be equal is if we were all the same person. Even then we would exist in different physical space and thereby find different opportunities. Consider how mentally sick a person would have to be to think they have the right or even the ability to weigh the value of someone else's life against the value of someone else's inequality.

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Re:America is giving up on the pandemic? by zepto on Sunday June 07, 2020 @07:58PM (#23452197)

There is sometimes nothing wrong with inequality, and other times a lot wrong with it.

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