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Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by theandrewbailey on Friday June 05, 2020 @02:51PM (#23432319)
> There are too many political entrepreneurs who are all trying to get power, and they get frustrated, which is how revolutions start: when members of the elite try to overturn the political order to better suit themselves.

So which elites are funding, and are ultimately behind today's violence? Unfortunately, any possible answer is a conspiracy theory.

Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by davidwf on Friday June 05, 2020 @06:56PM (#23434936)
I don't think that there's a conspiracy in any way!

The way that I interpreted this article and how it fits into the current moment is that there's a substantial portion of those dissatisfied with the current political order of permanent minority rule by people who have substantially different values from themselves who could be considered part of the "elite" of society in terms of wealth and influence.

That's not to say that there's a conspiracy theory! Coastal elites are certainly not the only people protesting, not everyone that's elite is dissatisfied with the current order, etc., etc. But IMO the current situation can be characterized as one where a large group of people, including but not in any way limited to a portion of society's "elite" grouping, are attempting to overturn the political order to better suit their values.

Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by raarts on Friday June 05, 2020 @07:18PM (#23435113)
It sounds like you want to say conspiracies don't exist. Do you? Because many have existed in history. Many exist today. People conspire. To get power, money.

This is not a conspiracy theory but fact :) conspiracy theories can be true.

Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by davidwf on Friday June 05, 2020 @07:29PM (#23435190)
Sure they can! However, in this particular instance, I was simply pointing out that, in contrast to the OP's statement that "any possible answer is a conspiracy theory.", there is a possible narrative where a group of society's elites can indeed be participating in the protests not because of some hidden motive, but instead because their own values genuinely align with those of other, non-elite protesters.

There are certainly also conspiracy theory narratives that can fit the situation if one is so inclined that way. :-)

Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by hckr_news on Friday June 05, 2020 @03:16PM (#23432654)
How about all of them? Each having their different motives and goals for their ideal society.
Re:2012 Is Bullshit; 2020 Is When We'll Be in Trouble (2012) by metalgearsolid3 on Friday June 05, 2020 @03:02PM (#23432470)
Did you write this comment with a voice assistant?