Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by ajconway on Thursday June 04, 2020 @04:15AM
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I come from a land where patents don’t really work. I often wonder, are there any examples of patents in the field of software engineering that worked like they supposed to, protecting small collectives from powerful corporations?
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by patentatt on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:42AM
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Many of the troll cases actually do trace back to a small time inventor, very often a failed small startup. They then sell their patents to various intermediaries which winds up in the hands of a ‘troll.’ So the original inventor does get paid, even if it’s an NPE doing the actual litigation against the big companies. The reason these trolls are so abhorrent is that they seek to maximize their economic value in the patent by trying to extend it as far as they can go, which gives them a bad reputation, but they play an important role in the system which can reward small time inventors. Big companies don’t really buy patents from small inventors any more, so the only route to monetization for an invention is through NPEs.
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by joshspankit on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:42AM
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I would also not be surprised if they paid the inventors as little as they can get away with and ended up with more “income” than they pass along.
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by krrrh on Thursday June 04, 2020 @11:55AM
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Yes, that is generally how investments work. Companies determined to spend more money than they are able to make off of patents might have exist, but not for long.
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by joshspankit on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:14AM
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As someone who pays attention but does not proactively search out patent litigation information most of the time, I would say it’s rare. The most benefit I see for smaller collectives is:
- Patenting an idea that’s core to their business. Doesn’t really prevent immediate attacks from clones, but it does make it much easier for them to get funding from VCs. - Inventors who license the ideas: they patent, then contact manufacturers.
Note: These are not really software-specific as I’m not aware of any software cases where patents benefit smaller businesses.
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by saagarjha on Thursday June 04, 2020 @05:23AM
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I think you meant patents, unless your country is strangely unproductive and/or critically in danger of dying out ;)
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by saagarjha on Thursday June 04, 2020 @01:20AM
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A lawsuit that they paid out $400 million for, even after rearchitecting how FaceTime worked to avoid the patent?
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by patentatt on Thursday June 04, 2020 @08:46AM
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Speculation, but the settlement could be for past damages while the workaround would avoid future damages.
Re:iMessage for Windows: A labor of love that will never see...
by giancarlostoro on Thursday June 04, 2020 @02:49AM
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How that patent is even valid astounds me. It saddens me more Apple did not challenge the patent!
I can’t imagine a patent dispute actually stopping them if they were firm on making FT an open standard.