Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by sxp on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @04:32PM
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It's good that you have the S&P as a benchmark. It shows that the median performance of a senator (4%-6%) is lower than expected (10%). Can you add the S&P to the histogram so it's always there? That would make the difference more obvious.
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Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by bingdig on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @04:55PM
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True although it's not quite that simple. Most senators have less risky portfolios than the S&P 500 with lots of bond ETFs and the like, so that's not a perfect comparison. We're working on creating a risk-adjusted return measure to provide a more accurate comparison.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by hendzen on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @06:14PM
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probably makes sense to use a few different metrics of information ratio vs $SPY, t-bills and a 60/40 portfolio.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by mehrdadn on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:14PM
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Instead of just plotting S&P, they should divide by it to reject the common-mode signal.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by rmrfstar on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @09:14PM
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They should actually regress senator returns against Ken French's research factors [1] and measure the statistical/economic significance of the intercept and the volatility of the residuals.
If I return 2% per year, but do so at 1% volatility and zero market exposure, then I can be a highly successful hedge fund after applying 10x leverage.
[1] https://mba.tuck.dartmouth.edu/pages/faculty/ken.french/data...
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by jdikatz on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @09:40PM
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Yeah this will probably end up being one of our benchmarks -- it's commonly used in academic literature to measure abnormal returns.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by all2 on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @07:06PM
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Where does this signal come from in a time-sequence series? I looked up "common mode signal" and in EE it looks like line to line interference, or line to ground interference. Does the existence of this signal presume a Senate's portfolio performance is somehow coupled to some index fund performance (S&P in this case)?
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by mehrdadn on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @07:17PM
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The common-signal would just be the general stock market performance. S&P is one way to approximate "the market". The idea being that you want a plot to show you how well they're doing in terms of market performance, not in terms of absolute share price (which is kind of meaningless here). Otherwise every shock to the general market ends up getting rendered in every line in the plot which is pretty distracting and makes it hard to see what's going on.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by mhh__ on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @07:57PM
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I'm not entirely sure either but you could use some combination of dS/dt dI/dt where S is the senator and I is the market?
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by all2 on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @10:23PM
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What is the partial derivative of a sitting US senator?
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by mhh__ on Thursday June 04, 2020 @12:26AM
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Their portfolio
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by philjohn on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:21PM
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And others have had 20% annualised returns which are ... questionable.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by underyx on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:53PM
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I hit 20% this year, that much can totally be explained by random chance.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by xapata on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:55PM
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Any particular person getting a 20% return is not suspicious. The question is whether the distribution of returns over all senators is suspicious.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by albntomat0 on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @06:05PM
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Any person getting a 20% in some small number of trades is fine. An individual getting 20% over a long period and a wide range of trades is definitely suspicious.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by wtvanhest on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @06:03PM
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Or a single person outperforming over a long time horizon.
When you have enough people trading over some period of time, someone will have consistently high returns.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by swyx on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @05:25PM
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questionable? they have inside knowledge
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by itsspring on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @06:05PM
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Looks like Mitch McConnell is doing well just following the benchmark (VFIAX: Vanguard 500 Index Admiral Fund)
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by divbzero on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @06:12PM
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It appears that the Senate Majority Leader is a Bogle follower. I can cheer that even if I don’t agree with all of his policies :)
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by ApolloRising on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @11:31PM
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The interface is misleading, put mitch in the search field by name and then you will see all his investments.
Re:Show HN: Stock Performance of US Senators
by harikb on Wednesday June 03, 2020 @04:53PM
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If the senators use this data and that argument to prove they didn’t make too much money or didn’t do anything wrong, then please remove all insider-trading laws. Right now, it only hurts the law abiding minority that accidentally makes a mistake