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Re:Firefox 77 by have_faith on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:40AM (#23391502)
> ...some of the best stories on the web, will appear on the Firefox new tab...

Why is FireFox trying to get into article recommendations? I can only assume it allows some method of monetisation once users get used to it being there. Feels a bit off.

Re:Firefox 77 by jakemal on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:48AM (#23391594)
It looks like they are already monetizing it. A few of the articles have a "Sponsored by X" below them. I don't love that, but at least they set it up in a way where they aren't collecting data on users to show them. They have to pay the bills somehow.
Re:Firefox 77 by okasaki on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:51AM (#23391632)
The $500M per year they get from Google isn't enough to pay the bills?
Re:Firefox 77 by heffer on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:56AM (#23391686)
Having other sources of revenue outside of a benefactor whose interesting in you relies on having a relevance in the browser market with them also actively engaged in implicitly or explicitly undermining that with a product of their own doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.
Re:Firefox 77 by okasaki on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:47AM (#23392315)
How does this relate to the original claim I was responding to which was "they have to pay their bills somehow"?
Re:Firefox 77 by ValentineC on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:55AM (#23391664)
It's dangerous to depend on a single company (that also happens to have a competing product).

What happens if the money stops coming?

Re:Firefox 77 by asldfhasdf2 on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:58AM (#23391709)
> that also happens to have a competing product

Firefox is a "feature" for Google Chrome.

The day Google stops paying mozilla and mozilla close shop, they will get the same treatment Google itself set up in courts against Microsoft for IE6. It's pretty much protection money for their past selfs.

Re:Firefox 77 by smnthermes on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @08:30PM (#23398263)
Google doesn't actually need Mozilla to increase their search market share. When Mozilla switched to Yahoo in the U.S., many users switched back to Google [1], and those who care about privacy switch to things such as DuckDuckGo anyways.

[1] https://searchengineland.com/report-yahoo-search-losing-fire...

Re:Firefox 77 by hu3 on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:12PM (#23393376)
That's my theory as well.

It's cheaper to keep mozilla barely alive than to pay lawyers and governments for anti-trust lawsuits around the globe.

And they get to harvest search data from firefox users as a bonus.

Re:Firefox 77 by IanOzsvald on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:56AM (#23391677)
Developing more than one revenue stream is likely to be a more resilient strategy than hoping that Google is happy to keep paying a competitor browser to stay in business
Re:Firefox 77 by ekianjo on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:27AM (#23392017)
Ads this way is not a sustainable revenue strategy, it's pocket money at best.
Re:Firefox 77 by nojito on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @02:40PM (#23394534)
Pocket money is better than no money.
Re:Firefox 77 by erk__ on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:55AM (#23391666)
Maybe, but that does not mean that they should put all their eggs into one basket.
Re:Firefox 77 by dblohm7 on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @11:12AM (#23391860)
Not when you're up against billion-dollar budgets.
Re:Firefox 77 by randlet on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:48AM (#23391603)
I'm sure it will be able to be disabled but it's so frustrating seeing more advertising being baked into the browser. I really don't want web browsers to subtly (or not so subtly) influence what people are reading.

edit: Like many others have noted before this everything is "free" model of the Internet seems completely broken to me and I feel a bit sad/hopeless about it.

Re:Firefox 77 by bzb3 on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:52AM (#23391641)
Call them what they are: ads. They are ads, and they were added by default to the home page of Firefox.
Re:Firefox 77 by sfink on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @12:08PM (#23392604)
I disagree. The main recommendations are not ads, they are recommendations. Formerly known as clickbait, but without the full negative connotations that the term has gathered. But still clickbait in that it's a source of distraction, a mechanism for derailing your train of thought.

In small doses, I rather like them. Back when Firefox only displayed 3 or 4 on the new tab page, I even left them enabled. Now that it has the huge grid of options, with a row peeking out above the fold in the classic dark pattern that demands discovery, I have turned them off.

As for ads, yeah, you'll get those by default too. (But there's a checkbox still where you can turn off the sponsored content.)

I just think it's useful to distinguish true ads from stuff that's intended to provide value. (Sure, ads theoretically can occasionally provide value, but the difference is huge.)

Re:Firefox 77 by hartator on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:48AM (#23391595)
Yes, I starting to dislike more and more when random tech companies try to push their political views on their users. Leave us alone.
Re:Firefox 77 by KoftaBob on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @10:46AM (#23391577)
They own Pocket, so that's probably related.