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Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by kuzimoto on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @12:24AM (#23387431)
> Preventing others from interfering should count, no?

Sure, but that's not what you asked.

I believe the other three will be charged and convicted. At least that what I hope will happen.

Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by huonpine on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @02:58AM (#23388408)
Floyd used a $20 note that the store owner thought was counterfeit, called the cops, the cops didn't even check to see that if it was a real $20 note before killing him. It was real...
Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by grasshopperpurp on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @08:08AM (#23390111)
Quick note: according to the owner, it was a 17 y/o employee that called the cops, and the store's policy is to only call the cops in response to violence. The employee was fired, and the other employees received additional training.
Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by kuzimoto on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @07:59AM (#23390070)
> the cops didn't even check to see that if it was a real $20 note before killing him. It was real...

Do you have any sources for that? I can't seem to find any references for that. According to some reports on the incident, the police at one point went into the store not sure what they did there though.

Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by TuringNYC on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @09:09AM (#23390581)
>> I believe the other three will be charged and convicted. At least that what I hope will happen.

Sadly, "belief and hope" hasn't worked for entire swaths of the population. If "belief and hope" worked, we could just "hope" there wont be riots and everything would be merry.

In reality, every two months something horrible happens happens and gets on the news. It probably happens much more than that and isn't on the news. And if it wasn't on video -- it is like it didn't happen.

It is rare to have video. It is even more rare for a charge. Even more for a conviction. I dont think looting is the answer here, but i seriously question the judgement of people who actually think there is no problem of police violence.

Even if you think that police violence is rare, there is the added problem of no consequence. I grew up with case after case, the most memoriable wones were https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Amadou_Diallo and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King#Beating

Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by kuzimoto on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @07:00PM (#23397542)
Given the total number of interactions with police every year (tens of millions), the number resulting in death is low (roughly 1000 a year). The number of deaths as an accident or unjust is a fraction of that.

Any time a person is killed or treated wrongly is terrible and police should be held accountable. But I believe it is more to do with rotten people than it is a rotten system.

Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by komali2 on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @01:39AM (#23387856)
I admire your optimism. As evidence against it: the doctor that performed the autopsy claims there's no evidence that Floyd died of choking, instead blaming "possible narcotics" in his blood stream. No explanation for how the doc knew there were possibly narcotics in his blood stream without knowing exactly what those narcotics were.
Re:De-Escalation Keeps Protesters and Police Safer by kuzimoto on Tuesday June 02, 2020 @08:12AM (#23390135)
It appears toxicology reports can take a long time, as long as several weeks.