Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by onlyrealcuzzo on Monday June 01, 2020 @12:42PM
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Well if you think this is going to be a downturn, you should look at how other downturns in housing unfolded. Usually, house prices take a while to fall once things get bad. Usually, you start to see a lot of deals and properties selling way under asking before average listing prices drop. If we are going to get to that point, it certainly doesn't appear to have happened yet.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by nostrademons on Monday June 01, 2020 @06:49PM
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I'm starting to see this - of the 8 or so houses sold in Los Altos over the last month, one was 5% under asking and the other was 18% under asking. It's still pretty rare though.
More interesting is the huge hit to the volume of sales. Mountain View was turning over about 8 houses/month before COVID, but for each of the last 2 months, only 4 houses have sold, and 5 in March.
I think it'll be a while, and depend upon how the reopening goes, whether we get layoffs at major tech companies, and whether remote work becomes common.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by sushisource on Monday June 01, 2020 @12:45PM
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If you're staying in the same market and you already own, then it doesn't matter much. What matters more is that your other investments are relatively outperforming the house (likely already true because of the Fed's money printer).
If you don't already own, waiting for a drop might be wise, but if you're going to sell stock to do it, you might wanna do it now. I'm looking at trading up to a new place right now and that's my plan.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by LanceH on Monday June 01, 2020 @12:48PM
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If you're moving up in home value, it may be worth taking the loss on a smaller home to get a good price on a bigger on.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by jbay808 on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:06PM
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Doesn't "the Fed's money printer" inflate housing just as much as other assets?
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by orwin on Monday June 01, 2020 @02:01PM
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With a lag, and it really depends on the area and how many people benefit from money printing. If the scheme is QE like in europe, the housing prices will not gain as much as the market prices in low to middle-class area.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by sushisource on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:22PM
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Not without some substantial delay. The stock market and the housing market are definitely correlated, but not perfectly so.
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by xur17 on Monday June 01, 2020 @12:59PM
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> if you're going to sell stock to do it, you might wanna do it now
Might be a wise move, but the current interest rates make it hard to pass up a mortgage..
Re:San Francisco, Silicon Valley rents plunge amid downturn
by sushisource on Monday June 01, 2020 @01:21PM
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Oh I'm assuming a mortgage is still involved. Buying a house purely with cash is a stupid move when the fed is handing out free money. Debt is a great tool if you use it correctly.
I've been noticing this as well (I can still find some of them on Airbnb actually).
I'm currently in the market for a house, but wondering if waiting a year might be a wise move..