> The message was followed by what was suspected to be a Distributed Denial of Service (DDOS) attack on the Minneapolis Police Website

https://xkcd.com/932/

After LulzSec was broken up they have had no teeth. Just a bunch of script kiddies these days :P

Even during the LulzSec saga Anonymous mostly did DDOSs and website defacing, with sporadic high-level hacks, but not all has to be hacking. Given the amorphous nature of the movement, even a lowly clerk/technician/etc. could leak evidence if they sympathize.

That being said, following the antics of LulzSec was my favorite part of 2011 by far.

I wouldn't be so sure. I know a lot of people that do have quite some skills but just weren't really motivated.

Definitely. If anything was true of Anonymous it was that it's membership was purely self-selected based on the specific 'op' being carried out.

The current climate is ripe for exploitation by nation states who may revel in the US' woes.

I wonder if there would be any overlap with the DOJ considering antifa as a terrorist org?

If that happens and there was overlap, there oils be more resources put at unmasking NSA intercepts.

In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really.

So I think they're gonna have a pretty hard time proving that anyone is part of "The Antifa Organization" just like it's impossible to prove that someone is part of "The Anonymous Organization". There is no hierarchy, no organized structure. The only way it could ever be applied would be to consider people with a given set of ideas and aesthetics terrorists.

Which would mean that there is a lot of overlap, as Anonymous is essentially based upon the idea of violent antifascism as far it's aesthetics and there is a ton of overlap between the dominant ideologies of Anonymous and Antifa (against state power, direct action, decentralized action, anti-censorship, violence against those you believe are a threat including organic censorship, etc...)

In any case, it's very bad for everyone.

> In any case, the DOJ considering Antifa as well as a potential consideration of Anonymous as a terrorist organization is pretty ridiculous and toothless, as they are both anarchist affiliations/ideas and not organizations in any way I know of, really.

So was the El Caeda

Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization, unlike antifascism.

There is absolutely no comparison you can make between Al Qaeda and Antifa or Anonymous.

> Absolutely not. Al Qaeda is not anarchist, they have a strict hierarchy, a chain of command, membership lists, payrolls, leaders and so on. Al Qaeda is also not an ideology but a formal organization,

Believe people more.

There is no need for me believe when I already know.

If you knew Arabic, you would know that "Qaeda" as a word has strong insinuations of structure and hierarchy. It is in the name,

What is known as that Qaeda thing was no more than a dozen something angry disenfranchised seminary students, and their sugar daddy sponsors with Saudi state links.

For most of people, it's no more than a product of their imagination.

You've believed that nonsense. People can lie, you know.

I assure you that Al Qaeda and it's affiliated organizations was much, much more than that.

I know people that bumped into quite a lot of salafist organizations that would later affiliate with Al Qaeda, they were well organized and had funding as well as structure and hierarchy.

In any case, a few dozen angry disenfranchised seminary students with a leader as well as en executive council and multiple branches is more of an organization than Antifa is. I know that Al Qaeda has declined a lot, but I know for a fact that it was much more than what you claim it is at least at the time.