How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct

Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by bsanr2 on Sunday May 31, 2020 @12:20PM (#23370544)

This doesn't pass the sniff test. If they were rioters, they would likely not be rioting on their own porch. Hence, ordering them to go inside would mean breaking into someone else's house. On the other hand, if they're legitimately on their own proerty, and if they're not being disorderly, then what is the rationale for that use of force?

I hate to say it, but I'm doubting the veracity of this account. There's nothing in the video - trash or debris from a large crowd, in particular - to indicate that the area they were in, specifically, was in need of such force. And, again, the curfew did not forbid being outside on one's own property.

If we're going to second-guess what we see with our own eyes - that these people were shot at by police without provocation - it's perfectly reasonable to then continue to drill down on what happened; question accounts, question logic. Or, we could employ Occam's Razor.

Anyway, as a practical matter we should also be asking for the RUF that these police were operating under. That would clear up a lot.

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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by germinalphrase on Sunday May 31, 2020 @12:50PM (#23370743)

I’m not disagreeing with anyone about the inappropriateness of the police actions, but the account is not claiming that those shot in the video are rioters. Simply that the police we see were actively clearing rioters from the neighborhood and the porch people were caught up in it.

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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by notahacker on Sunday May 31, 2020 @01:47PM (#23371179)

The alleged presence of rioters in the neighbourhood justifies the police being there in armed convoy through the neighbourhoods. It doesn't justify any of their actions shown in the video, which shows a large section of street with no evidence of rioting and unprovoked fire on people in their gardens to a enthusiastic call to action usually reserved for strikes on military targets.

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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by save_ferris on Sunday May 31, 2020 @01:20PM (#23370957)

The area does look remarkably clean to have just had rioters on the street. There’s zero trash or debris on the ground, zero evidence of paint or smoke canister usage anywhere, and all of the houses and cars are immaculate. If there were people on the street prior to these police/soldiers arriving, it’s hard to imagine that they were looting or rioting.

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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by scarface74 on Sunday May 31, 2020 @01:32PM (#23371045)

So that makes it a lot better that police made a mistake and did it.....

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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct by derangedHorse on Sunday May 31, 2020 @12:43PM (#23370694)

The assertion that shooting someone on their own porch is wrong doesn't invalidate the claim made by the OP's friend. I completely agree with you that an unnecessary amount of force was used though, to the point where it almost seems criminal.

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