Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct
by xphilter on Sunday May 31, 2020 @12:17PM
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I agree; but it is possible to have a lawful order to control someone on private property. An example was the Boston bombing manhunt where police were doing door to door searches because there was a specific, articulated threat in a defined geographic area (note, I don’t know that’s the real legal test, but I’m sure it considers factors like that).
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Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct
by bsanr2 on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:21PM
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What you're calling for is the suspension of the rule of law.
No crisis justifies this unless you're willing to throw the whole thing out permanently. If you have a problem with a lack of police powers to compel house arrest without cause or to search without permission or warrant, write a new Constitutional amendment and get it passed.
Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct
by xphilter on Sunday May 31, 2020 @07:24PM
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That is a possibility, and one I think you need in a complex society. If police have a real threat of harm coming from inside a private home, they might need to enter the home before they can get a valid warrant. The problem is, police—-by doing the things in this video and though mistreatment of minorities—-are losing credibility (if they had any). Society needs to hold bad actors in police accountable so that we can be protected when they’re actually needed.
Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct
by sophacles on Sunday May 31, 2020 @01:38PM
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So your argument is that "different situations are different situations?" That is a solid justification for any action in this situation!
Re:How to Safely and Ethically Film Police Misconduct
by xphilter on Sunday May 31, 2020 @07:21PM
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No, I was arguing against the parent comment. In this situation there were no exigent circumstances and so no expansion of what the law enforcement can do. I wanted to clarify that in special circumstances it is possible for a LE to order someone to move inside their house. You need consequences for this bad action so that the police have credibility to use the action in the proper situation.