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Re:On Marketing Haskell by gowld on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:36PM (#23362955)
I don’t get it. What does removing Haskell from the into course have to do with the use of Haskell in the PL or compilers class?
Re:On Marketing Haskell by mumblemumble on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:50PM (#23363073)
If it's anything like what happened at my alma mater, they may well have switched to Java for everything.

It's really a disservice to students. Developing competence in a variety of programming paradigms is a career-expanding experience. It makes picking up a new language - and, by extension, a new technology stack - a quick and easy thing to do, because there will be very few ways of doing things that you haven't seen before. Which, in turn, makes it a lot more feasible to pivot your career or act quickly when an opportunity arrives.

A bunch of students who know only Java, on the other hand, is exactly what big corporate employers want. For employers, it maximizes the interchangeability of employees. For employees, it minimizes the interchangeability of employers.

Re:On Marketing Haskell by zabzonk on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:52PM (#23363098)
> at my alma mater

Where would that be? Why is everyone here avoiding being specific? If you are not specific, why should we believe in what you say?

Re:On Marketing Haskell by mumblemumble on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:22PM (#23363350)
Because doing so would not be decorous, and there's no practical reason to do so.

The most practical way someone could act on the opinion I expressed, if they find it useful, is not to sit and laboriously compile a list of individual institutions. It's to take that opinion under advisement in the course of the due diligence they should already be doing in their college search.

As for the last question, if I had any fiduciary responsibility, I would advise you not to believe anything posted on an Internet message board, because the commenters are largely just a bunch of anonymous yahoos who like to troll high school juniors and seniors as a sort of perverse hobby.

Re:On Marketing Haskell by a1369209993 on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:50PM (#23364033)
Probably for the same reason their username is "mumblemumble" rather than "Ted Anderson from New York". This isn't Facebook; don't ask people to dox themselves.

If you want people to name and shame, ask for a list of offending institutions, not individual examples. (Also, fact-check that list, rather than blindly accepting accusations made by internet randoms, but that should go without saying.)

Re:On Marketing Haskell by zabzonk on Saturday May 30, 2020 @04:07PM (#23364201)
I didn't ask about their real name, I asked about the college they were talking about, which hardly exposes them to doxing.
Re:On Marketing Haskell by pgcj_poster on Saturday May 30, 2020 @05:08PM (#23364738)
The more information attached to your account, the closer it gets to revealing your true identity.
Re:On Marketing Haskell by ipnon on Saturday May 30, 2020 @02:03PM (#23363190)
If your first program is a function, the whole world becomes a function.

If your first program is an object, the whole world becomes an object.

There are always 2 ways to skin a cat with a computer. The more practical computer user could be satisfied with only using their first.

Re:On Marketing Haskell by centimeter on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:47PM (#23363045)
Most CS students don’t take those classes. They’ll take data structures, algorithms, game design, databases, etc. which are mostly in Java or C++.
Re:On Marketing Haskell by zabzonk on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:50PM (#23363078)
Most CS students certainly do take compiler classes, at least for any decent CS course.