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Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by Perseids on Saturday May 30, 2020 @06:15AM (#23359980)
> Plus, there's a great desire to go for an utopian future cleaning up all that's wrong with current tech. This [...] is the case with Rust [...]. Starting over is easier and more fun than fixing your shit.

The domain I'm working in might be non-representative, but for me fixing my shit systematically means switching from C++ to Rust. The problems the borrow checker addresses come up all time either in the form of security bugs (because humans are not good enough for manual memory management without a lot of help) or in the form of bad performance (because of reference counting or superfluous copies to avoid manual memory management).

But otherwise I agree with you that if we never put in the effort to polish our current tools, we'll only ever get the next 80%-ready solution out of the hype train.

Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by jason0597 on Saturday May 30, 2020 @10:06AM (#23361267)
Have you tried modern C++ before switching to rust? Or were you already using it and it didn't provide all the necessary features?
Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by pjmlp on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:01PM (#23363679)
I am all for modern C++, and although I like Rust, C++ is more useful for my line of work.

However, it doesn't matter how much modern we make C++, if you don't fully control your codebase, there is always going to exist that code snippet written in C style.

Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by waheoo on Saturday May 30, 2020 @01:26PM (#23362850)
Does it have a borrow checker?
Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by pjmlp on Saturday May 30, 2020 @03:02PM (#23363695)
In the form of static analysis, lifetime checker.
Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by waheoo on Saturday May 30, 2020 @09:54PM (#23366551)
So no?
Re:Why is Kubernetes getting so popular? by pjmlp on Sunday May 31, 2020 @03:29AM (#23367898)
Depends, not on the language, that is correct.

However I always have static analysers enabled on my builds, so it is almost as if they were part of the language. Regardless if we are talking about Java, C# or C++.

Just like most people that are serious about Rust have clippy always enabled, yet it does stuff that ins't part of Rust language spec.