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Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by hindsightbias on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:54PM (#23355418)
Blue Thunder was 37 years ago. Not seeing why drones will be so much more easily weaponized than manned helicopters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Thunder

Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by save_ferris on Friday May 29, 2020 @06:45PM (#23356495)
There are a couple of major differences. My understanding is that helicopters can’t typically reach and maintain the altitude that unmanned drones can, making drones more effective to be used in less conspicuous ways. There’s also the difference in the baseline level of security between the two. Helicopters do go down from time to time, thus creating a human risk that isn’t present in drones.

I feel that since drones pose less risk to the lives of their operators, the desire to use them will be greater.

Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by serf on Friday May 29, 2020 @07:09PM (#23356661)
>thus creating a human risk that isn’t present in drones.

most unmanned drones used today have a far higher history of 'unintended forced landings' than most other military craft -- when you use planes that have a high risk of crash over metropolitan and suburban areas, the human risk multiplies.

The US military has 'lost' about 400 'large' drones between 2001 and 2014.

To put that 400 number into perspective, the US had 5 or 6 major airliner crashes between 2001-2013, and about 400 accidents (including non-crashes and minor incidents) over the period of 2004-2013.

I'd rather have any fighter jet in production right now over me than anything General Atomics had designed.

Here's an older WaPo article from 2016. From 2001-2016 400 military drone crashes occured. Military incidents are harder to find out about, otherwise I would have used that number.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/drone-crash...

>I feel that since drones pose less risk to the lives of their operators, the desire to use them will be greater.

absolutely true -- but don't let that make you think that loss-of-personnel is the most important metric for whether or not a mission flies.

Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by throwaway0a5e on Friday May 29, 2020 @10:30PM (#23357942)
>when you use planes that have a high risk of crash over metropolitan and suburban areas, the human risk multiplies.

Yeah, but it's not a risk to the government. The government is very good at weaseling out of responsibility for killing bystanders with little more than a settlement check. When people acting on behalf of the government get killed then that's when government gets held accountable.

Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by BEEdwards on Friday May 29, 2020 @07:44PM (#23356963)
Oh No they might crash more! They totally wouldn't use them offensively because it's easier and less "risk".

Oh wait, we have nearly 20 years of the endless war that proves that they will.

https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/specialseries/2015/07/l...

Re:US customs and border protection is flying a surveillance... by tinus_hn on Saturday May 30, 2020 @07:08AM (#23360274)
Drones also make it easier to get people to fire on civilians because they are remote controlled.