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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by jolux on Friday May 29, 2020 @09:05AM (#23349453)
Telegram isn’t encrypted at all by default, and its encryption scheme is sketchy.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by fullstop on Friday May 29, 2020 @11:20AM (#23350965)
Eh? It's encrypted by default. Not E2E, though, although that is an option which you can choose to use.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by StavrosK on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:28PM (#23353689)
That's a bit disingenuous. Everything is encrypted these days, there's virtually nothing that doesn't use TLS. Therefore, when someone says "encrypted", it's a good bet they mean E2E.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by fullstop on Friday May 29, 2020 @02:57PM (#23354076)
Telegram non-E2E is more than just TLS, though.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by StavrosK on Friday May 29, 2020 @03:09PM (#23354239)
What more do they do? I'm not aware.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by fullstop on Friday May 29, 2020 @04:28PM (#23355109)
It is documented here: https://core.telegram.org/mtproto

These layers are used in addition to any encryption done on the transport layer.

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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by jolux on Friday May 29, 2020 @06:39PM (#23356426)
Fair enough, but they have the keys for that layer, I don’t see how that’s an improvement over TLS.
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Re:Show HN: TrashEmail – Telegram-based disposable mail service by FalconSensei on Friday May 29, 2020 @09:10AM (#23349517)
Exactly. WhatsApp still wins by having the message encrypted
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