Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by jdsully on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:22PM
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If a field is harvested too efficiently it needs to be left fallow to rebuild lost nutrients. Leaving some in the ground is not waste by any definition.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by ip26 on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @04:36PM
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Well... You do need to account for the lost inputs, e.g. fertilizer that runs off instead of being sequestered, water pumped in for irrigation, gasoline to power a tractor, and so forth.
A cover crop (e.g. clover) specifically for building soil that grows without aid of fertilizer or irrigation is a better story in this regard.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by pdonis on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:51PM
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No, pointing out that what some people call waste is not actually being wasted, it is serving a useful purpose. "Waste" means it is serving no useful purpose at all.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by nitwit005 on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @08:08PM
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It's fairly difficult to do something that serves no conceivable purpose. I could buy stuff and throw it straight into the trash and we could say it's not waste as I'm supporting manufacturing and the garbage industry.
If you care about limiting some wasteful practice, you have to pick some definition of what counts as waste.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by jedimastert on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:45PM
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It's it essentially composting? How is that waste?
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by nitwit005 on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @07:46PM
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If I buy a tomato, and throw it in my garden, eating none of it, most people would say I wasted the tomato.
There are far cheaper methods of fertilizing my garden than tossing food into it, which makes it "wasteful".
At a certain point you have to pick a definition of what counts as food waste, and stick with it. Fiddling with the definition isn't going to make the world a better place.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by skywhopper on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:19PM
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Plowing it back into the fields means less fertilizer is needed for future crops. How is that waste?
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by hawski on Thursday May 28, 2020 @03:47AM
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That's like a perpetual motion machine. Energy is wasted, there is no way around it.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by saagarjha on Thursday May 28, 2020 @04:11AM
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The sun is a great source of free energy.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by hawski on Thursday May 28, 2020 @04:59AM
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But not necessarily nutrients/fertilizers and most tractors and transportation today run on ICEs. So it's still not a free lunch.
Re:Americans, it turns out, would rather visit a store than ...
by NeutronStar on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @07:52PM
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It needed that fertilizer to grow to even be plowed back in to start. It's just a waste of space for a "good product". It's basically a free pass for next year. No money gained means no profits means profits loss.
Basically declaring that the waste is not waste. Solving problems by changing definitions.