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Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by pkaye on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @01:35PM (#23326832)
Elsewhere I've ready that Hong Kong and Taiwan have a lot of differences like Mandarin vs Cantonese. Also Hong Kong has a much higher GDP per capita.
Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by f00_ on Friday May 29, 2020 @01:29AM (#23346551)
true, but the written language is exactly the same.

taiwan has national health care, really good public transportation system, really liberal government (gay marriage recently) despite the low gdp. I would move there if they legalized weed which is sadly unlikely

now that hong kong is a part of the PRC, maybe they'll be forced to use the national language (mandarin) lol

Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by throwaway_pdp09 on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:12PM (#23327410)
> like Mandarin vs Cantonese

Noob question, how much do these differ? Also does it go further, perhaps a difference in culture as well as language?

Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by Analemma_ on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:47PM (#23327954)
Cantonese and Mandarin are mutually unintelligible. China likes to call them different dialects for political reasons, but for all practical purposes they are different languages.
Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by av_engr on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @02:21PM (#23327556)
They are quite different. Personal take, imagine Scottish English vs American English but 2x that.
Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by bobthepanda on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @03:00PM (#23328188)
If you're talking about spoken, probably the difference is something more like English v German.

Individual words can look similar but combine them into a sentence and you probably wouldn't be able to parse it on a first take (if they were transcribed into romanized letters), and there are some grammar differences.

Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by dmoy on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @03:28PM (#23328619)
It's even worse than English v German imo (speaking both, and descendant from Cantonese, married to a mainlander)

The german grammar is a fair point though. Makes every sentence sound like churchill trying to be annoying on purpose.

It's like English v German, but imagine that German had a bunch of sounds that seem identical to you but are actually different sounds (you just can't hear the difference). Imagine that German Wasser (water) and Wäscher (washer, ish) sounded exactly the same to you, and you couldn't tell the difference. Now imagine that literally every single word had dozens of those identically-sounding-but-actually-different-sounding-to-native-speakers examples.

The issue imo is the increase in tones. Mandarin has 4-5 tones, cantonese has like 6-9. And the tones in Mandarin are much easier to distinguish.

Re:Hong Kong’s security law is going to devastate its economy by theandrewbailey on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @03:44PM (#23328891)
Quite a bit. I found this video informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2km_z4-1T8