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Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by jolux on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @09:23PM (#23318429)
The point of deplatforming is not to change the minds of true believers in extremist causes, it’s to hinder their ability to recruit.
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by sfj on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @11:41PM (#23319147)
“The more you tighten your grasp, the more star systems slip through your fingers.”

Censoring the point of view of others merely lends credence to their point of view. Unless you find a way to censor them completely, you will cause more and more people to lose faith in your ideals.

Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by jolux on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @11:50PM (#23319212)
Got any proof of that?
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by sfj on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @12:12AM (#23319321)
All the new alternative social networks and video sites that have cropped up and the old ones that have ben gaining in popularity is evidence that people are beginning to turn away. Ex. lbry.tv, bitchute.com, gab.com, voat.co, phuks.co, zerohedge.com
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by jakelazaroff on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @12:39AM (#23319439)
This is an expected consequence of deplatforming — once you kick them off, those people are going to go somewhere. For this argument to work, you need to show that those networks are able to grow more than they would as a community on a mainstream platform.
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by sfj on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @03:03AM (#23320186)
Networks tend to follow an exponential growth rate, so even if the same number moved to the alternative platforms, the time it would take them to grow large enough to be significant would shorten substantially.
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by jakelazaroff on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @03:19AM (#23320319)
Why would it shorten the growth period compared to mainstream platforms, where there are far more users who could join the community? Is there any evidence that this is the case?
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by sfj on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @05:42AM (#23321164)
> Why would it shorten the growth period compared to mainstream platforms, where there are far more users who could join the community?

Because networks tend to follow an exponential growth rate. The time it takes to go from 1 to 128 equals the same time it takes to go from 128 to 16384, so if you add 127, you've shortened the time for the network to grow from 1 to 16384 by half. Meanwhile, for a platform that already had 16384, subtracting 127 is a drop in the bucket.

> Is there any evidence that this is the case?

Facebook/Youtube/Twitter/et al couldn't have grown as much as they did as fast as they did unless that was the case.

Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by jakelazaroff on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @09:37AM (#23322960)
Not all exponential growth is the same: x^2 and x^1.01 are both exponential. I’m asking you for evidence that the exponent is higher for niche isolated networks than it is for communities on platforms with algorithmic promotion to a massive existing userbase.
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by injustice on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @01:15AM (#23319589)
Your reply has violated our community guidelines and you have been deducted 5 points for use of the word "extremist". You have 3 points remaining before account suspension.

See how that works? Very slippery slope.

Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by ikt on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @01:25AM (#23319627)
A slippery slope to what? People migrating to a website that's reasonable?
Re:Twitter tags Trump tweet with fact-checking warning by injustice on Wednesday May 27, 2020 @01:39AM (#23319699)
So you would rather funnel two differing views to two platforms where they can both agree with each other in an echo chamber, rather than reasonable healthy adult discussions and sharing of ideas?

Sounds very segregationist.