Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by Retric on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @10:53AM
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An EC engine is a long way from 100% efficient. Model 3 Long Range is 310 mile range on a 75kWh battery. Cars are not hitting 310 miles on 2.3 gallons of fuel.
For the most extreme comparison, a Bugatti Chiron gets an EPA 11 MPG so the roadster is arguably the equivalent of a 56 gallon fuel tank where the Chiron is stuck with 26 gallons.
PS: A better comparison would be a similar ~200,000$ two seater but none of them are optimized for fuel efficiency.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by ThrowawayR2 on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @11:36AM
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> "And weighs 2 1/2 - 3 tons."
A bit of a tangent but it'll be interesting to see what effect an all electric vehicle future has on the design of roadways, bridges, etc. I imagine that many things will need to be rebuilt to handle the additional load.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by mikestew on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @12:46PM
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They're already built for it. The '73 Pontiac Bonneville I rode around in as a kid weighed 4300 lbs. And as sibling comment mentions, anything not a car or light truck will outweigh anything with batteries. Our Sprinter-based RV weighs 10K lbs. empty, and it is a small RV.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by selectodude on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @12:31PM
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They're already "designed" for 18-wheel trucks which weigh 15-20 times that. Even heavy EVs are nothing compared to heavy transport.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by ThrowawayR2 on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @12:39PM
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To use your own example, they're designed to handle a certain quantity of 18 wheelers but they're not designed to handle traffic that is entirely composed of 18 wheelers.
Raising the average vehicle weight from 1.5 to 3 tons will definitely have an effect.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by selectodude on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @12:51PM
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But not as much as it would seem, since road damage is a quadratic function of weight and one truck does as much damage as 9600 1 ton cars. Doubling the weight of the car would maybe narrow that by a few percentage points, but vehicle miles for any personal vehicle at essentially any weight is a rounding error compared to one truck.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by Retric on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @01:51PM
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Bridges at least need to be designed for just 18 wheelers because over 50 years that’s going to happen at least once.
Re:New two-stroke engine design could help keep internal com...
by war1025 on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @05:41PM
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Roads are designed for a certain amount of "axle weight" [1] which basically means to carry a heavier load you need to add more axles to distribute the load.
I would guess electric cars are still negligible in that metric, though.
So sure the Roadster can hold what, 6 gallons? Like an econo-box. And weighs 2 1/2 - 3 tons. Much of that in battery.
Yes, weight is still the big issue.