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Re:A Developer Culture Test by ryanbrunner on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @08:01AM (#23310021)
I agree with the points re: subjectivity, but I do feel the Joel test is somewhat outdated, if only because everything on there has become table stakes rather than genuine differentiators.

A 12/12 on the Joel test doesn't mean you're a great company, it means you're not a total garbage fire.

I'm not going to presume I can come up with a whole new test on the spot, but I'd expect a "modern" Joel test to have questions like:

- Do you use CI? - Do you deploy changes individually? - Is your code coverage > (some amount)

Re:A Developer Culture Test by poulsbohemian on Tuesday May 26, 2020 @04:29PM (#23316027)
>I agree with the points re: subjectivity, but I do feel the Joel test is somewhat outdated, if only because everything on there has become table stakes rather than genuine differentiators.

This might be, but there are a whole lot of companies in the world that can't even make table stakes.