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Re:Highly available Kubernetes with batteries for small busi... by deepsun on Monday May 25, 2020 @06:00PM (#23305396)
Once you know it, it's not really an overhead anymore, you do the same tasks as fast as without it.

But you also have an easy way to scale, in a lucky chance you have to.

Re:Highly available Kubernetes with batteries for small busi... by SahAssar on Monday May 25, 2020 @06:15PM (#23305503)
The overhead might get smaller but it never disappears. You'll still have maintenance and debugging issues that are specific to k8s.
Re:Highly available Kubernetes with batteries for small busi... by _frkl on Monday May 25, 2020 @06:34PM (#23305633)
True, but it also takes away some pain you'd otherwise have. I used to be in the 'Kubernetes is unnecessary overhead for most cases' camp, but since I actually started to use it I think it's a good base for even smaller setups, and I find myself prefering it to other ways of reproducably setting up infrastructure/services. Maybe that's not the case for the people posting here, but often times it seems people who argue against Kubernetes have never really used it and don't have more than a shallow knowledge.

Its hard to put into words without writing a blog post, but in my mind the 'everything is a resource' design introduces a simplicity that counterbalances the complexity that comes with it. One still has to make an informed decision, of course, and sometimes it really is not the right tool ...

Re:Highly available Kubernetes with batteries for small busi... by guywhocodes on Monday May 25, 2020 @09:01PM (#23306442)
This is exactly my experience.

For years I bemoaned that it doesn't scale down to the scale where most engineers work. I was wrong about that, it didn't scale down to the amount of learning I was willing to do for any one project at the scale I was doing them.

SOOO many times have I had to try to make my tools do something they weren't really capable of doing. And while it feels like a win today it never does tomorrow.

With Kubernetes most of my issues come from other things than that itself. Digital Ocean has a great small scale experience. AWS EKS has been quite a mess in comparison in terms of Ops time required. This made me realize that maybe people are suffering with ineffifcenies from the cloud provider, not Kubernetes itself.