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Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by tester34 on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:53AM (#23299003)
Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference?

My vision of video conference is that one person is sharing their screen or something, why would I want to watch other peoples avatars or rooms in all kinds of video quality

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday May 25, 2020 @06:33AM (#23299772)
If you are a trainer, then having immediate access to all the attendees is fairly important.

I'm in the process of "refactoring" my training approach to a videoconference approach (using Zoom).

I'm actually really surprised at how intimidating the process has been. I've been doing training and speaking in person for a long time, but not via Zoom.

It will work out, but the biggest issue that I'm encountering, is not having access to "immediate feedback."

A very good article on the topic was written by a well-known (and extremely effective) trainer, Erica Sadun, here: https://ericasadun.com/2020/03/11/so-youre-going-to-teach-re...

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by Beldin on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:43PM (#23304207)
Virtually all my teaching is online, in a dedicated tool. Of course I used slides and approach to teaching that i inherited from previous teachers of the course - which includes heavy use of polling using the builtin easy polling feature of our online class tool (collaborate ultra).

Once i taught a guest lecture in zoom. I ended up using directpoll.com to approach the polling features I'd normally use. Lots of yes/no questions, easily asked and answered (always same url, can watch answers coming in), some exercises.

Extremely positive response. Simple, oft-used interaction truly is a game changer - even if limited to yes/no.

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday May 25, 2020 @03:45PM (#23304221)
Beldin -Garath's brother?
Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by goatinaboat on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:28AM (#23299182)
Honest question, but why would I want to see more than 9 people in a video conference?

Because it more closely mimics the experience of being in a room. For example maybe I want to listen to, or be, the person speaking while gauging reactions from facial expressions. I have a 30" 4k monitor, I can easily have 20-30 faces on screen at once in software that supports it.

If you read the MS forums there are plenty of complaints about this, a typical use case is a teacher or lecturer who wants to see their entire class.

I am totally OK with the number of faces on screen at once being a user-configurable parameter in the client - but 9 is a hard limit baked into Teams.

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by saalweachter on Monday May 25, 2020 @07:04AM (#23299909)
Huh, can you assign seating on Zoom?

Say, "this is how I want the grid to be arranged", and maintain that arrangement over many meetings, with absent people blank and not repacked?

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday May 25, 2020 @08:26AM (#23300273)
That is my single biggest complaint about Zoom.

Also, if you are a host/co-host, the order of the "Participants" list keeps shifting. I end up accidentally muting/unmuting people, because their position changed between my moving the cursor over their name, and clicking.

Re:A major reason for departures at Slack was “remote work r... by t-writescode on Monday May 25, 2020 @01:35PM (#23303040)
You could make a feature request!

For a service that's probably being marketed a lot at schools, that sounds like a perfect feature for the classroom and you could use it, as well :)