Facebook pay cuts for remote employees who move prove that labor market rigged?

Re:Facebook pay cuts for remote employees who move prove tha... by TomMarius on Sunday May 24, 2020 @02:27PM (#23293473)

I don't understand the goal of equality. That sounds like the failed social experiment that was destroying my country for 40 years and the damage is there even now, 30 years after the end. Why is not the goal to lift people out of poverty? The UBI proponents are claiming it can be done with current budget, and if that can be done, surely a little bit more targeted social anti-poverty system should be possible just as well?

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Re:Facebook pay cuts for remote employees who move prove tha... by ido on Monday May 25, 2020 @04:21AM (#23299143)

For every anecdote there is a counter anecdote! I was born and grew up in a country that (eventually) became hyper capitalist (maybe more like the UK than the US) & then moved to social democratic countries as an adult (first Austria then Germany).

In both of these the quality of life is so much better than in my home land, despite the fact my earning here is a bit lower and I pay more taxes on that earning - you get so much for free/cheap from the government here that I don't mind paying the higher taxes & life is so much less stressful: free kindergarten from age 1, 14 months parental leave, 200 euro per child for 18 years (up to 26 years if they study & don't yet have an income of their own), university is free, healthcare is free (it is nominally free in my home country but here a lot more is included in the free tier & the quality is higher), tenants get protections people from my home country find hard to believe when I tell them, and the list goes on and on.

So yes, life in Moldova, Belarus or wherever you come from is shit but it's not shit because socialism can never work. And nobody is arguing in becoming more like the Ukraine they argue in favor of becoming more like Sweden.

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Re:Facebook pay cuts for remote employees who move prove tha... by TomMarius on Monday May 25, 2020 @08:42AM (#23300368)

But Sweden, Germany, Austria don't try to make everyone equal.

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Re:Facebook pay cuts for remote employees who move prove tha... by ido on Monday May 25, 2020 @11:18AM (#23301940)

That was never the suggestion - only more wealth redistribution via taxation vs minimum taxes & minimum services. Less inequality != complete equality.

And even in the Soviet Union salaries differed according to profession (doctors & professors didn't earn the same as street sweepers).

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