The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020

Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by oblio on Sunday May 24, 2020 @05:45AM (#23290403)

I'm not trying to belittle those deaths and they should have put them on the first page, but didn't 5000 Americans die in Iraq? At this rate Coronavirus will kill 100 times that :o

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by docdeek on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:15AM (#23290514)

Deaths in a war like Iraq were entirely preventable - no choice to go to war, no US deaths in Iraq.

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by dao- on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:18AM (#23290530)

Pandemics are preventable. Pandemics escalating domestically is preventable.

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by docdeek on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:41AM (#23290626)

Indeed, though the newspaper in question was all-in for the Iraq War initially while it has never been cheering on the pandemic.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/26/pressandpublis...

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by dntbnmpls on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:36AM (#23290601)

> I'm not trying to belittle those deaths and they should have put them on the first page, but didn't 5000 Americans die in Iraq?

Did only americans die in iraq?

> At this rate Coronavirus will kill 100 times that :o

Hundreds of thousands of iraqis died because of the illegal invasion. That's not counting the people who starved or died of disease due to the destabilization of the country due to the invasion.

Also, there is a difference between death by natural causes and murder.

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by oblio on Sunday May 24, 2020 @10:03AM (#23291580)

Would NYT dedicate the front page to Iraqis? I doubt it. I'm not American, BTW.

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by dntbnmpls on Sunday May 24, 2020 @06:28PM (#23295455)

> Would NYT dedicate the front page to Iraqis?

Of course, if it aligned with their political agenda. But the NYT was behind the propaganda to start the illegal iraq war, so I doubt that.

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Re:The front page of The New York Times for May 24, 2020 by gumby on Sunday May 24, 2020 @12:19PM (#23292541)

Roughly half a million fatalities in the second Iraq war and about 150K in Afghanistan. (All numbers are of course disputed).

Of those they were about 4.5K and 1.5K US government employees (e.g. soldiers). Those are the only ones the NYT would bother to list, of course, but I had hoped even that meager portion might provoke some attention.

Your position echoes Stalin’s calculus that “quantity has a quality all it’s own. In both cases action (and inaction) by a few caused enormous misery for whole populations, though now the country has used its weapon of ignorance to attack itself.

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