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Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by babesh on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:08PM (#23287433)
This feels like 1994 all over again. In 1994 you had one dominant software monopoly in Microsoft. Today you have several: Microsoft, Google, Apple, Facebook with dominance in individual spheres of influence. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by bufferoverflow on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:11PM (#23287466)
In 1994 Microsoft didn't arbitrarily ban applications on their OS.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by singron on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:31PM (#23287593)
They had different knobs available to them, and it's not clear given the opportunity that they wouldn't try it. E.g. it was less common for PCs to be connected to the internet and receive OS updates, so they wouldn't have an effective way of using a policy like that.

They certainly did their best to prevent any other OS from being on your hardware.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by rightbyte on Sunday May 24, 2020 @05:44AM (#23290395)
They still are not doing it right? You just get the "downloaded from internet" warning.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by singron on Sunday May 24, 2020 @05:50PM (#23295158)
I think you can argue that current day MS is a little more afraid of anti-trust action than 1990s MS. Game developers were legitimately scared that MS was going to do this for windows and start taking their own 30% cuts from all PC games. I'm not sure if Valve confirmed it, but it seems likely that SteamOS/Steam machines were at least partly a backup plan for ensuring there was a place to sell games without MS skimming off the top.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by dblohm7 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:42PM (#23287664)
No, but there was that whole “Windows won’t run on DR-DOS” scandal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by babesh on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:46PM (#23288381)
They made PC makers pay a license fee per computer even if the computer didn’t ship with Windows.

They coined the term embrace, extend, extinguish. See the history of Internet Explorer.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by egeozcan on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:14PM (#23287486)
Also, as far as I know, even couldn't.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by Iv on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:28PM (#23288263)
They would have loved that though!

I mean Steam was made as a panicked reaction when Microsoft announced its Windows store. People in the industry knew very well what they were trying to do.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by throwaway2048 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @10:32PM (#23288606)
Steam predates any windows app store stuff by almost a decade, it wasn't a "panicked reaction" to anything.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by Pxtl on Saturday May 23, 2020 @11:12PM (#23288782)
Yeah, grandparent is misremembering a real event. Steam did do a panicked reaction to Windows store: a hard pivot to Linux support and the linux-based SteamOS.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by Iv on Sunday May 24, 2020 @01:09AM (#23289281)
Steam was nowhere near the app store we know today when it was created. It was Valve's auto-updater and match-making service. They had a few partner games using it as well.

I may recall it badly but I am pretty sure they opened it to general companies and indie studios as a reaction to Windows 8 built-in app store:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18996377

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by destrukt147 on Sunday May 24, 2020 @02:15AM (#23289553)
I've been on steam since a while after it's genesis. IIRC the store aspect of steam started in 2006-2007, which is way before even windows 8 which only came out after 2011-2012