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Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by neya on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:26PM (#23287119)
In the links you've shared, I thought the author (Azer) was on the right to behave the way he did. I don't see it as a reason to discount his current experience because of that either.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by chmod775 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:46PM (#23287270)
They would have no case if they actually tried to go after him to "defend" their trademark. His mail was just empty threats.

You can't just trademark 3 letters in a way so that nobody else can use them. In fact there's hundreds of trademarks that are the letters "kik" in various logos[1].

What they trademarked is a bunch of specific logos containing those letters. Doesn't prevent other people from also using those 3 letters in some other way.

In fact when he wrote "kik", my first thought was the he was talking about the German textile discount store - which is the first result for me when I google those letters.

[1]: https://trademarks.justia.com/search?q=kik

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by abduhl on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:03PM (#23287388)
What is the cost to defend against a lawsuit where the person suing you has “no case,” especially in the USA where the American rule for lawyer fees governs?
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by otterley on Saturday May 23, 2020 @08:26PM (#23287947)
BP, BMW, and GE (among countless others) disagree and would be happy to haul you into court to prove to you that you are wrong if you misuse their trademarks.

It's easy to be an armchair HN lawyer when you have no skin in the game.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by justin66 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @09:12PM (#23288183)
> BP, BMW, and GE (among countless others) disagree and would be happy to haul you into court to prove to you that you are wrong if you misuse their trademarks.

As an attorney, do you think he was misusing the "Kik" trademark?

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by otterley on Saturday May 23, 2020 @10:43PM (#23288655)
I know this sounds like a cop-out answer, but as an attorney, I would zealously represent my client on either side.

I don't know all the facts here, but I do know that as a practical matter, it comes down to a whole bunch of factors, among them, use in commerce, possibility of confusion, etc. But I can say that judges take a dim view of people who tell others to "fuck off" and who appear not to have a justifiable reason for using a name nor a long history of doing so.

I also know that bullies don't always win - Nissan Computer still owns nissan.com, not the motor company.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by neya on Sunday May 24, 2020 @02:56AM (#23289709)
I'm tempered to rename my packages with a prefix "kik" just to fuck with them. I don't live in the US, so good luck enforcing their empty threats on me ;)
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by superasn on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:07PM (#23287424)
Actually if anyone behaved poorly, it was npm not Azer.

I'm shocked to see that something like this could happen on npm - where a single threat of getting lawyers involved can get your package transferred away from you. It really wants to make me not publish anything on npm too actually.

Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by egeozcan on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:11PM (#23287463)
Totally agree. I'm shocked to see that people actually think less of Azer because of what he did. Why keep your work on a company that bullies you like that?
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by jv22222 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:33PM (#23287177)
Just came here to say the same thing. He didn't need to swear and be so bratty about it, but yeah it seems to me he was not wrong.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by leppr on Saturday May 23, 2020 @06:40PM (#23287228)
"Integrity" is not a desirable trait in this day and age. A developer is of little use if they don't respond to short term individualistic incentives.
Re:Unable to deal with Chrome Extension Team, Kozmos is shut... by DDR0 on Saturday May 23, 2020 @07:21PM (#23287530)
Au contraire. A developer with integrity will become a senior with integrity, and when you're dealing with people -- which you will be if you are not already -- you get a reputation for being fair and just. People will not deal anywhere near as favourably if you have a reputation for displaying a severe lack of integrity.