University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT

Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by rvp-x on Thursday May 21, 2020 @08:16PM (#23267262)

I can see a future cynical me talking about how brutal it is to lure poor students and have them take loans to pay first year tuition only to kick them out a year later with nothing to show for it, if they're not the top 1/3 for some reason.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by SiempreViernes on Thursday May 21, 2020 @08:32PM (#23267386)

This is in the context of a free education system, the only thing the poor students loose is a bit of time.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by ajsnigrutin on Thursday May 21, 2020 @09:59PM (#23267972)

A year is A LOT of time, and you have to explain why you lost a year later on.

Also, even in "free" education systems, some taxpayer is going to ask "why the hell am I paying for 2/3 of crappy students, can't you just raise the bar at the beginning, and only accept the top 1/3?"

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by newbie578 on Friday May 22, 2020 @04:31AM (#23269850)

A year is a lot? Then what is 5 years, a lifetime? Let's not fool ourselves, a year is NOTHING, it passes as soon as it arrives. There is nothing bad with people "loosing" a year or two, or perhaps even more.

In an ever more pacing world, we should readjust and look back, some might "sacrifice" a year, but they also learn valuable experience so not all is lost.

Today, when people's work time can last 50 years easily, what is a year or more? Let people "search for themselves". Let them try out the hard things, let them explore and value experience, realize if something is for them or isn't.

In the end, we learn most from our mistakes, not successes.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by codeisawesome on Friday May 22, 2020 @05:06AM (#23270040)

I sometimes wish I could remember that a year is a short time. I’m often wracked by guilt about not progressing at sub-yearly “ticks” on some aspects.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by zajio1am on Thursday May 21, 2020 @10:09PM (#23268021)

It is not that they do not learn anything during that year. Also, many of them later got admitted to some 'easier' school and got their credits transferred.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by magicalhippo on Friday May 22, 2020 @06:50AM (#23270679)

> and you have to explain why you lost a year later on.

That's only if you do nothing else for the rest of the year...

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by orwin on Thursday May 21, 2020 @08:34PM (#23267407)

not grandparent, but where i live it's the same system: ten years ago tuition were 230€/year until your master degree, roughly half got cut after the first year and a fifth/quarter the second year.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by Mountain_Skies on Friday May 22, 2020 @09:14AM (#23271661)

That's essentially the same argument Supreme Court justice Rehnquist made during a case regarding the use of affirmative action in university admissions.

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Re:University of California Will Stop Using SAT, ACT by poohblahoyamo on Thursday May 21, 2020 @09:23PM (#23267754)

Oh oh. Those are called Caribbean medical schools.

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