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Re:Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish by smichel17 on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @02:41PM (#23250267)
In my opinion, the current mores of the company are pretty irrelevant; power dynamics are what matter.

Tides change. Whether or not Microsoft is benevolent today, they may not be in 5+ years.

Any company large enough to screw me over without feeling the loss of my (and people like me's) business in their pocketbook, is not a company I want in a position of power over me. Adapted to this conversation: we should not tolerate "extend" from any company that could successfully pull off "extinguish".

Re:Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish by patcon on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @04:55PM (#23251686)
YES. It's about which realities are in the "adjacent possible", not about the personality of any entity in this "tick" of the timeline. We should avoid realities that make a "dystopic" reality more adjacent to us than we are willing to deal with.
Re:Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish by StrangeWill on Wednesday May 20, 2020 @08:44PM (#23253713)
Yeah, but that would honestly be an argument for any large company with leverage getting too much leverage, and this would apply to things like Google, Amazon, Apple, etc. and them using their leverage to control markets in similarly unethical ways.

It feels tiring that any time Microsoft does something good, EEE comes up, but times where Amazon or Google are doing massive damage to our industry or standards for their own benefits it's crickets.